Gaijin/Warthunder an year later: Flips the disk but plays the same

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Hello,

It’s been pretty much a year since the last time I wrote about Gaijin/Warthunder, went to take a look and seems like they haven’t changed:

I used to play Warthunder years ago, even long before Ground Forces was in the game and I used to enjoy it. Even nowadays I believe there’s potential in WarThunder as a game, because it’s not a bad one! It’s those who run it and work for it that drove me away because of their shenanigans. Often you ask me why I don’t cover WarThunder material on RSR and truth is, I wouldn’t feel be honest with myself, you or any of my colleagues if I did so. Also last year, because Gaijin can’t censor blog articles like they can (and have been) censor Youtube videos, I was harassed by the company’s staff after I didn’t buy into lies they emailed me, in a petty attempt to make me change certain articles I had written.

I have in very few occasions modified certain articles and will but only as long is not something too serious, if they are not trying to censure and as long gaming staff ask kindly and give me honest reasons. However, if I get approached they way like Gaijin did they will get nothing but a very Portuguese “Forearm Jerk” in return.

The game and anything associated to Gaijin became nearly dead to me at that point, an apology was never given and truth to be told I never sat around waiting for it. I simply can’t support a business model that censors, blackmail, harasses and does all sorts of unethical and highly dubious actions.

I still gave Gaijin/WarThunder the benefit of the doubt, heck, I was even tempted to re-download it and give it a go because of recent introductions like the Tortoise, after all it were forum staff acting on their own who came at me but the fact that, Anton Yudintsev, the company’s CEO is the one making that poll…well, this is past reasoning.

Basically the game has been having issues with cheaters and he gave the community two options:

  1. Abuse Youtube’s Copyright system to censure and destroy the content creator’s livelihoods instead of fixing the actual problem.
  2. Ruin the mode where the cheating is taking place.

 

A company that has a history with copyright is now asking be backed by the community to censor content creators? This is not just a whole new level of bad but of stupid as well, this is not the 80-90s, nowadays there is so many competition out there, a sane gaming company knows the power that a content producer has, we bring most of the players into the games and going after us makes absolute no sense.

Did a last check before posting this article, apparently now they discussing the actual fix of the issue but the damage is already done, fixing the problem should have been the first and only option since the beginning, not trying to hide it under the carpet.

 

And just like MagzTV said, one thing is to control what’s said in the forums and game, another is when they try to control things out of their sphere of influence by abusing the law and doing all other sorts of shady actions.

Gaijin, you are dead to me until you prove you are actually changing your ways because right now, you are unthankful, a disrespect and a waste of time for any content creator, this is not how you deal with this situation.

 

Source:

[Developer] RB mode and illegal modifications

See also:

Thanks to MagzTV for making the Youtube video.

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105 comments on “Gaijin/Warthunder an year later: Flips the disk but plays the same

  1. Steven Parry says:

    Wow. Just…..wow. I actually can’t believe that WarThunder and Gaijin are actually trying this. Playing both sides of the fence here, but I think WarThunder as a game is fantastic. It has its own unique flavor that makes it different from WoT and AW, but still has some amount of commonality to make a transition between the games easy.

    BUT, I just don’t know what to say about this PR suicide. I am surprised the players on the forums actually voted on this instead of ripping the CEO a new one. To WT’s credit, they are the brunt of a lot of jokes because of their screw-ups and issues and that’ll tend to make a dev team real mean and defensive of their “baby”. HOWEVER, criticism, especially constructive criticism, is needed. Unlike what Russia believes, ~95% of the world runs on the idea of Capitolism Natural Selection where you keep pace or do better than your competitors or you die. And in all honesty, constructive criticism is good because you know what your players want and you take steps to appeal to those wants/needs.

    WG for example rarely has problems with software because they are listening to the players who call them out when there is an issue. If WT wants to be successful in the near future, they might actually have to get rid of their Stalin Russia PR department and listen to the masses.




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  2. lameminator says:

    Interesting. Yesterday I installed WT (I haven’t visited the blog, so not because of you 😛 ). It looked cool on gameplay videos, I the idea of the game is kinda good, I thought it might be even better than WoT, not only because it’s a unified air-tank game (I do not intend to say combined arm game, bc that would be a Battlefield), but the shell mechanics have seen more work than the one in WoT (more shell types, and a little more realistic).
    I quickly realised with this kind of game physics it’d be perfect game for a automobile simulator where you have to drive on a mirror smooth frozen ground with tires suitable for summer driving. Imagine when you press the turn button a bit more you make an epic drift you’d do with an ELC with full speed except it’s a lower Soviet light (T-50, T-60 and stuff..). The BT-5 and 7 were true horrors, sometimes they acted like when you try to move in snow with a car and the wheels are rotating af, yet you stay where you are, but the funniest were when the BT started some zigzagging maneuvers and while doing that I could barely accelerate the the vehicle, so I had to slow down and move again.
    The interface is is just bad at many levels, took a while to figure out how to invite a friend to platoon, worse HOW TO SET READY, which cannot be toggled by a button like in wot, it’s a chat command /sready… I was a little careless at this part, but still. I’ve accumulated almost a ten thousand free xp, yet I can only convert them into vehicles using gold, not like in Wot, where you just spend the free xp.
    And I had no idea how to reset the control settings to default, bc I ended up trying to change a few things but later it was just screwed up.
    Back into battles, after I ice skated out to face the enemy I immediately got sniped, sometimes from the other side of the map, while I was barely exposed. My TD (first soviet one) was inaccurate as hell, yet, every other tank seemed not to have the same problem, hitting a stationary target, and yes, I can move the cursor over another tank.
    And the players… i have never seen such retards, not even in WoT, I get shot by my team mate, because everyone shoots everywhere with everything bc why not, even with MGs which is fun when you have a TD with an open fighting compartment, so first crew member get killed, then tk-d by another “team mate’s” artillery strike bc where else would he call it. The match after that 2 BTs halted behind me and started shooting me and i died by burning down. I’ve seen others get Tk-d too, and everyone thinks he’s a Japanese kamikaze pilot when flying.

    And honestly, sometimes I really got suspicious about some of the opponents players, Rita mentioned cheating so what I said might not be baseless.

    I’ll keep sticking to Wargaming products, because they have more quality – Rita, you still neglect playing AW too, right? 🙂

    That’s War Thunder in a nutshell.

    UI: The pc i was using is kinda potato, but I had just enough fps to be able to try it out and form an opinion, but I don’t think I was sliding everywhere because of the lag..




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    • Oberst_Stein says:

      Well…the sliding comes most of the time from bad crews in Arcade mode. The biggest problem of Warthunder is, that some things are too complicated for a beginner to understand without the help of some Veterans. That drives a lot of players away for good reason. WG products are a lot more easy to access.
      It does happen all the time that people complain about a game mechanic, accuse people of cheating and complain about that some tanks are really bad. Most of the time the players just did not understand the gamemechanic with crewskills, different ammotypes on the different nations and their effectiveness. And i don’t blame them. A game should teach the players what to do a lot better.
      I can’t imagine a new player starting off with the british tanks without any knowlege about the enemy tanks. Where the crew sits, where the ammoracks are. Because hitting ammoracks is key in a lot of the british tanks because they have now APHE ammo.
      And of course Gaijins way of not taking steps against cheaters and strange polls like this one show the company in a real bad light.
      If a decent game company would by the game i’m sure a lot of things would be much better.




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  3. Cooboo says:

    Its sad to watch how a good game can be tarnished by a bad company.




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  4. Major Rager says:

    WELL! I guess we can all agree now, That there Really are SHILLS that patrol the forums.




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  5. Andras says:

    Well, i just left the game after a long strugle against the “suicide aircraft exploit” in Ground Forces Arcade Battles ( i have more then 5000 battles played). Hundreds of posts on the forum, a vote with more then 1000 votes, the vast majority against, a report from a tech moderator to the staff to correct the issue alongside many bug reports filled… the result: total ignorance and disrespect for the customer complaints. I decided to leave the game and i wrote a goodbye message on the topic (now closed) https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/323544-adjust-planes-in-ab-gb/&do=findComment&comment=6433882
    that demanded the correction of this unfair exploit. The result: after a few days i got a mail that announces me that i am banned for 4 days. The game was uninstalled by that time… i just left it.
    After 1 day the guy who opened the topic posted a reasonable message to defend the freedom of speech and the freedom of the customer to complaint and demand fair gameplay… the result: he received a warning and topic closed… the reasons… hilarious, you may read them.
    There was no swear word or insult in my posts… just the truth… that hurts Gaijin. Since then i decided to continue the protest, this time outside the “Gaijin controlled zone”, i consider myself insulted by the behavior of the staff, just because i dare to complaint against the mockery.




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