9.17.1 Common Test: 2nd Iteration

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Hello, the second version of the 9.17.1 Common Test server has just been released. Here’s what changed:

Ui Changes

  • Fixed dynamic changes in the UI not occuring after the recovery period elapsed
  • Fixed minimization of client when attempting to enter hieroglyphs
  • Fixed the issue when damage caused in the Artillery Aim was not displayed in the damage panel
  • Fixed total amount of Gold and Credits required for purchasing consumables did not display in the Service window
  • Increased the volume level for the Voice Messages in Battle for the Swedish crew
  • Fixed magazine reloading and the “No shells in ammo” message was displayed in the chat, despite the ammo rack not empty
  • Fixed continuous loading when joining the detachment in Stronghold: Battles
  • Fixed the improperly displayed location of player’s own vehicle on the minimap after being destroyed and switching to the Postmortem mode
  • Fixed messages sent before joining a battle room not displayed in chat
  • Fixed continuous loading of Strongholds
  • Fixed client hanging when updating vehicle after selling from the Garage
  • Fixed system errors when performing actions with the Spectator mode in training rooms
  • Fixed minor technical issues

Vehicle Changes

Changes to the following vehicles:

  • VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A
    • Changed the thickness of the lower glacis plate from 100 to 120mm
  • Maus
    • Changed vehicle durability from 3,000 to 3,200 hit points
  • Pz.Kpfw. VII
    • Changed dispersion from 0.35 to 0.37
    • Changed aiming time from 2.5 to 2.6
    • Changed dispersion during movement from 0.18 to 0.20
    • Changed dispersion on hull traverse from 0.18 to 0.20
    • Changed penetration of the PzGr 44 L shell from 330 to 315
  • Tiger (P)
    • Increased armor thickness of the commander’s cupola for the second turret from 95 to 125mm
  • Pz. 58 Mutz, Pz. 58 and Schwarzpanzer 58
    • Improved gun depression angles (removed the elevation zones above the rear view mirrors)
  • Object 907
    • Increased armor thickness of the hull sides from 85 to 100mm
    • Increased armor thickness of the turret top from 30 to 40mm
  • VK 100.01
    • Changed armor thickness of the turret front from 220 to 230mm
    • Increased armor thickness of the commander’s cupola front from 210 to 220mm
    • Changed thickness of the lower glacis plate from 125 to 135mm
    • Changed armor thickness for the frontal part of the turret side from 160 to 170mm
    • Changed shells of the 12.8cm Kw.K. L/50 gun:
    • PzGr 39 (490/220) is replaced with PzGr 39 K (440/220)
    • PzGr 40 (490/250) is replaced with PzGr 40 K (440/260)
    • Changed reloading time of the 12.8cm Kw.K. L/50 gun from 18 to 15s
    • Changed dispersion of all guns on hull traverse for the first second suspension from 0.28 to 0.25
    • Changed dispersion on turret traverse for the 12.8cm Kw.K. L/50 gun from 0.2 to 0.18
  • Mauschen
    • Changed shells of the 12.8cm Kw.K. L/50 gun:
    • PzGr 39 (490/220) is replaced with PzGr 39 K (440/220)
    • PzGr 40 (490/250) is replaced with PzGr 49 K (440/260)
    • Changed reloading time of the 12.8cm Kw.K. L/50 gun from 15 to 14s
  • E 50
    • Changed reloading time of the 8.8cm Kw.K. L/100 gun for the second turret from 5.5 to 5.0
  • E 50 Ausf. M
    • Increased thickness of the lower glacis plate from 100 to 120mm
  • Indien-Panzer
    • Changed aiming time of the 8.8cm Kw.K. 43 L/71 gun from 2.7 to 2.5
    • Changed aiming time of the 9cm Kanone gun from 2.5 to 2.3
  • Panther mit 8,8 cm L/71
    • Improved armor of the gun mantlet
  • Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. H
    • Improved gun depression angles of all guns for both turrets
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67 comments on “9.17.1 Common Test: 2nd Iteration

  1. Deano says:

    dam some very nice buffs here especially to the maus and the vka that lower plate was one of the main strong points of the vka and i thought removing it seemed weird plus e50m buffs appreciated 😀 also the vk100 nerfs and buffs make a lot of sense and i think will be good for the tank 🙂




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    • Uggala says:

      Also love the LFP “rebuff” to the VKA. The thing completely sucks as your garden variety heavy, but has its niche where its absolutely awesome – No other tank i’ve ever driven can troll tanks around corners like this thing does… with everybody making scratches in a very heavily angled LFP 😀




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    • Ragnarokbazil says:

      Watch them buff type 5s armor again hull from 270 to 290 and turret to 320 lol and the side armor from 160 to 180and giving it a 19cm derp gun and a reload of 19 seconds 1750 damage 125mm pen and a 7 meter splash xD only can dream right?




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      • Carl says:

        Well both the current stock and new 15cm gun are naval guns so 19cm is out. That said they could give the 15cm AP. 280ish pen. O they could use the 15.5cm or 20cm guns…




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  2. Mario Scalas says:

    Yeah, long live the VK A lower plate! Now buff the gun handling or decrease the whopping 105 mm ammo: 1080 silver for 200 mm of penetration seems just not fair! Give us the new 88 L100 gun as option!




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  3. DeadArashi says:

    Sweet mother of German bias… butseriously, good changes




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  4. Enigmaticmuffin says:

    maus has 3,200 hp now
    hooooooboy




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  5. Xsilent says:

    OP maus




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  6. bigbossvonduff says:

    Now change the prem HE shell of Type 4 and Type 5 to 1100 dmg and 5.5m splash radius and 85mm pen. That would be perfect.
    I realy love the e50m buff 🙂
    At the moment the lp is around 195mm eff. vs Ap if you hit it frontally without angle.
    With that buff it will be changed to around 240mm eff. vs Ap
    Very welcome buff together with the gun depression with now -8 😀
    Good job wargaming!

    P.S.
    The rest of the changes are very good aswell…




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  7. Well, i thought Panzer VII was crap after testing it. The weakspot on its side can be hit from the front. It has 180mm effective armor 😀




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    • bigbossvonduff says:

      Yes this weakspot is very “weak” ^^ but if you drive with your angled front from behind a house first you will get ~300mm eff. – forgett sidescraping with that thing xD
      I love the turret 🙂




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  8. StyleZ says:

    122mm Soviet guns – 440dmg
    128mm German guns – 440dmg
    Legit!




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    • bigbossvonduff says:

      The 12.8 from the germans:
      L50: 440dmg
      L55: 490dmg
      L61: 560dmg
      I got no problem with that.
      And i would say 440dmg is in T8 better then 490dmg with slower reload…
      My opinion.




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    • Hamiradon says:

      Well, the 12.8 L 50 is more akin to the BL-9 with its 390 damage…, so the damage is coherent!




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  9. StyleZ says:

    Whyyyy oh whyyyy make all those zillion armor buffs on everything? This is how WG wants to make less gold spam? 😕




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    • Celtic says:

      Remember, they want to change shell mechanics (as we saw in the sand box) so with these armor buffs, event gold spamming won’t always help. They can’t NOT buff armor just to reduce gold spam. You need to keep going. Can’t just stop out of fear.
      These buffs were sorely needed… the Maus needed serious love and damn she got it! 😀




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      • Anonymous says:

        The Maus had been left behind because of Power Creep, and the Japanese Super Heavies were always in that uncomfortable middle ground between the Maus and the E-100. Buff the Maus, then you need to buff the Types to keep them in the middle.




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  10. Bricktop says:

    Vk is now going to be a beast 😀 My favourite heavium finally getting some love




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  11. bill says:

    great buff to 907.




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  12. Geoff says:

    No nerf to gun or armour of type 4/5 or maus!

    WTF




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  13. Ares says:

    Yes, well so Tiger 2 need same kind of buff to lower plate. Riht now, he will be slower then VK, and have worse armor.




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    • sippi says:

      On vbaddict Tiger 2 already worse than Vk A wonder how it ll look like after the massive buff on the A
      I mean upper hull from useless to even able to bounce Tier 10 guns now
      means a lot and not to forget the better gun depression maybe some hull down abilities are possible now
      The tank could be interesting now again
      With all of these tier 7/8 med gun pen buffs or strong pen new premiums and also these buffs of armors with track links and shit this tank suffered most of all tanks in wot probably and it never faces any buffs itself before even as they changed the gun/stats on tiger or tiger 2




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      • sippi says:

        just saw only a little number of people uses the vk A in comparision to the Tiger II could be the main reason why it still on the same levels in win rate and damage dealt so it even more deserves this buff
        I bet they wont touch the lower glacias armor of the tiger because of historical reasons its a well known tank and some guys would start to wonder




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      • Anonymous says:

        Tiger II has the better gun. The 45.02A has a better LFP and mobility. They just now bumped the UFP to the same thickness as on the Tiger II. So, now instead of a clear superior, you have a choice between gun or mobility.




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    • Jurrunio says:

      Tiger II has more pen and accuracy on the gun
      Seriously why are there still people not understanding the differences in playstyle of the 2 tanks. Tiger II sidescrapes and punch holes on the enemies’ weakspot while Vk A is medium with a better gun. They are like the two Soviet tier 6 heavy tanks, the Kv-85 and T-150, or the two American tier 8 meds, the standard Pershing and premium Super Pershing, fitting different roles despite being in the same class.




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  14. Nocomment says:

    The Maus is going to be real beast. Though I worry for my hits taken log when after this, it may run out of yellow.

    Rita may not think much of him but that Murzor (?) guy is like a breath of fresh air so far. They even buffed the British mediums a little which is astonishing.

    Tho I do worry greatly about my amx 13-90.




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    • “Rita may not think much of him but that Murzor (?) guy is like a breath of fresh air so far. They even buffed the British mediums a little which is astonishing.”
      Well he is certainly making sure that new tanks aren’t weak. However sometimes they are too strong for my taste.




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  15. TerraStriker says:

    There Is a Buff missing in the patchnotes! Both the T28 and the T95 got a significant Engine buff. The top Engine now has 780HP!




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  16. diegosgm says:

    I still think that the nerf to the E5 is a mistake… it should not be nerfed in the cuppola (all the Americans have the hull-down role), it would be much more logical to nerf its lower glacis to encourge hull-down gameplay…

    I’ve been playing in the test server with it this evening and a freaking is3 could pen me with AP in the damm cuppola… Shame on you WG




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    • Infernal969 says:

      Fuck you and your E5. 🙂




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    • Jurrunio says:

      Nerf on the cupola ia necessary. Even tier 10 tanks dont pen it easily. Also, WG nerfed part of the cupola only, so more than half of it is still hard to pen
      Go train yourself in a Tiger P, so you will know how to bounce shots all day with your turret even with a big weakspot on it.




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  17. Anonymous says:

    ‘Fixed minimization of client when attempting to enter hieroglyphs’ why is that even a problem?




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  18. Anonymous says:

    e50m lfp buffed to 120mm

    fv215b still rolling around with 76mm lfp. Sure guys.




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  19. akstywa says:

    e50m did not need a buff




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  20. Anonymous says:

    E50 has now 3k dpm with the 88/L100….. wat




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  21. no_its_not_me says:

    well done wg




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  22. Nevermind says:

    With the buffs to the VK 100.01 at tier 8 how the HELL will a tier 6 or 7 for that matter pen without gold? This is a IMHO a huge step backwards in game balancing.




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    • Hamiradon says:

      That’s the thing, the Jerry Bunker Tanks are now not something you shall fight head on, finally.




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    • That’s like crying that you can’t pen a Maus with IS3/T44/T32. You aren’t supposed to pen it, its 2 tiers higher than you, show its side/back or go fight someone else!




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    • sippi says:

      nobody plays a slow huge bunker tank if every low tier crap med can pen it frontally just by pressing two key
      E 100 is the only tank I sold out of my tier tens ( I think I have actually maybe 5-10 ) because of this reason
      at tier 10 almost everybody fires gold
      Shitty gun that didnt worked without spamming heat was another point
      And I dont think I dont like playing heavies in general have tried Maus and Vk 101 like 1 week ago and both were awesome even on the testserver where all plays gold only
      Btw sides of vk 101 was weak had no trouble to flank with vk d 2 and pen it with gold and this tank has nothing better as a standard tier 6 german gun penetration
      if you re not able to pen using he to track can sometimes also be very usefull




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      • Hooli_Gun says:

        RIP E-100 after these Maus buffs,cuz who the f*ck would drive a tank with a serious Heat-allergy (all over the front),when you can just bulldoze your way in a Heat-immune Maus with crazy dpm and gun handling?




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      • Anonymous says:

        Dunno, maybe a 15cm DOOM Cannon that nukes low tiers. The E-100 is also more mobile and still a beast if played with thought.

        Also, Alpha beats DPM in the meta at the moment. The Maus needs the armor and gun handling to compensate. Remember, the Maus still has the worst gun of the German HT,




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    • viper_invader_1 says:

      If ur in a tier 6 or 7 tank you need to flank this tank, its got low dpm so it is vulnerable to rushes at close rang




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  23. TerraStriker says:

    There is a buff missing in the patchnotes. Both the t28 and the t95 got a way better engine. The top engine now has 780HP and even the stock engine was buffed to 650HP or so. Giving Both Tanks significant better power/weigth ratio




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  24. Swatdennis says:

    4H buff? That thing is SO workable, just need to turn the hull if you want to poke or use ridges… 10* is not the worst, so no idea why they are buffing it…. Well, I already have 3 marks in it…..




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  25. Sven says:

    “Increased the volume level for the Voice Messages in Battle for the Swedish crew”
    Ah, this one has bothered me since day one of the Swedish tanks. As a Swede that of course could understand what they are saying it was just difficult to make out what they were saying with all the other sounds of the game drowning the voices.




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  26. Anonymous says:

    LOL. HIEROGLYPHS.




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  27. Anonymous says:

    Not on this list, but…

    I watched QB’s YouTube talkthrough on the previous list, and it did not list the VK 30.02(M) frontal armour changed I have seen earlier (buffed UFP, nerfed LFP). Haven’t managed the time to check the official page – have those been dropped?




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  28. twist says:

    That sneaky 907 buff urks me, making the roof 40mm makes it so it cant be overmatched by 90mm+ guns anymore, making it almost inmune to the 105 guns from other mediums, its the most massive buff in here atm. And it just makes it so that the rssian 122mm guns get even better, german bias my ass. Just an excuse to buff the russians to an even sillier level




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  29. Psychopatton says:

    T-34-3..




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  30. Nova_Prospekt says:

    What is with the Panther II and the missing sideskirts?, some people already complaint about it but nothing is mentioned in the changes. Somebody have some information about that?




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  31. “Fixed minimization of client when attempting to enter hieroglyphs” wait wut? Why did I not know I could send hieroglyphs? Also, this must have been a pain in the ass for Egyptians to deal with 3,000 years ago with wargaming’s game client constantly shrinking back into their pyramid computer’s task bar. Damn wargaming imposing on reality’s transdimensional timelines again.




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  32. JAMP says:

    WHAT ABOUT THE LEOPARD 1!?!? …it is simply NOT balanced anymore if ever!




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  33. Vegalyp says:

    I don’t get the nerf to the Pz.Kpfw. VII. I thought it was actually really well balanced in the first iteration. Strong, but not OP.




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  34. PeterSmith says:

    @lucas…
    They are preparing for the new Eqyptian line after the Ram ll … 😛




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  35. Darkmil says:

    My VK45.02A will be greater than ever, Hurrah !




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  36. Zorin234 says:

    No mentions of the 12 rounds a min e50




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  37. Dreadnought_VN says:

    E 50 Ausf. M

    Increased thickness of the lower glacis plate from 100 to 120mm
    ThankU WG for return E-50M to it’s former glory :))))))))))))))))




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  38. Anonymous says:

    does anyone know if the RU 251 will still unlock the leopard prot after the patch? I can’t find any update tech tree anywhere…




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