9.18: Common Test Third Iteration

Test server is back online. If you have “9.18_test2” just run it and it will update. If you need to install click this link. Download the test client installer (4,9 MB). (EDIT. Russian Tech Tree Captures added from DoM1N)

List of changes in the third general test 9.18

– The problem with the hovering of the sight when switching between the “trajectory view” and the “overhead view” of the camera of the sight of the automatic control system is solved.
– Resolved a problem with “departures” when switching to full screen mode on a monitor with a resolution of 4K.
– Fixed displaying a mini-map in the sight “trajectory view”.
– Fixed the position of guns for the tank Pz.Kpfw.I
– Resolved the problem with the camera hanging in the center of the map when switching to the enemy machine in observer mode.

Changes have been made to some of the branches of the Tech Tree.

USA:

– Added transition from M41 Bulldog to T54E1.
The M41 Bulldog had been left with a 76 mm cannon with a magazine loading system, capable of causing significant damage with a single reload: in connection with the transition to the standard match maker, the number of shells in the drum was reduced to 6.

Germany:

– Added a transition from HWK 12 to Leopard PT A.

THE USSR:

– The structure of development branches to T62A and “Object 430” has been changed.(Added screen shots of old and new Tech Trees)

* Technical Changes.

WZ-132-1:
– Gun ammunition 105 mm L7A3C increased from 32 to 36 shots.

T-100 LT:
– The 100 mm T-100 gun ammo is increased from 33 to 38 shots.
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M551 Sheridan:
– 105 mm light weight gun gun ammunition increased from 32 to 37 shots.
– Gun ammunition 152 mm Gun-Launcher XM81 (conventional) increased from 25 to 28 shots.

AMX 13 90:
– Gun ammunition 90 mm F3M is increased from 36 to 40 shots.

AMX 13 105:
– Gun ammunition 105 mm D. 1504 is increased from 24 to 30 shots.

9.18: Common Test Third Iteration

50 thoughts on “9.18: Common Test Third Iteration

  1. Lol. These lights are such shit.

    The needs in the last test version completely killed it. Before that they were actually balanced and competitive.

    To be honest quite a few of them even needed buffs.

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  2. Poppavein says:

    I thought this was the patch to Make Light Tanks Great Again, but I was wrong. Nerfing our favorite tanks just pisses us off.

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  3. Nafre says:

    The ammo buff is very welcome. Though the view range might need +10 across the board and tanks gg all shows the panzerwaggen at 420m…
    Tbh just nerf the cute range of those op mediums and we can can it a day. Across the board medium view range – 10 or – 20

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    1. Op mediums….hmmm ok.

      What you smoking?

      Penetration, accuracy, dpm, alpha, hp, armour all say otherwise. Oh and these are the most important stats for a tank in current meta.

      But it’s ok. A bit more mobility and camo (not even view range lol) makes them OP….sigh moron today…

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      1. What the fuck? Are you dumb? Mediums got better accuracy than heavies, better accuracy, apcr standard AND better raw penetration. What an idiot lol, The only tanks with better guns than them are a handful of TD’s with better pen and dpm, but with HUGE drawbags to make up for those. I’ve been absolutely destroying anything lately in 907 62a and Leopard lately, so you must be a bad medium player if you don’t realize how mediums are the meta and the most powerful class for years.

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      2. What the hell dude? Mediums got better accuracy than heavies, apcr standard with way better speed than AP AND better raw penetration. What an idiot lol, and you calling that guy a moron? Ahahah, The only tanks with better guns than them are a handful of TD’s with better pen and dpm, but with HUGE drawbags to make up for those. I’ve been absolutely destroying anything lately in 907 62a and Leopard lately, so you must be a bad medium player if you don’t realize how mediums are the meta and the most powerful class for years.

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  4. madogthefirst says:

    All this pissing a moaning over the LT nerfs. Honestly most of it was warrented, the only things I can’t agree with is having tier 10 LTs with under 400m view, leaving premium tanks in their OP state, and the Bulldog single shot nerf.

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    1. What a joke.
      Before the 2nd test nerf to lights they were actually balanced.

      They had worse (generally across the tiers compared to meds) :
      Penetration
      Accuracy
      DPM
      Reload
      Alpha
      HP
      Armour

      They made up for it by having :
      View range
      Camo
      Mobility

      They were very well balanced and still worse than mediums for most maps and situations. But no…everyone wants to whine.
      What people need to understand is that the lights don’t stop at tier 8 now. These are tier 10 tanks and they need to be competitive with tier 10 tanks.

      Also the argument that they are just mediums is complete false. The meds have way more survivability and firepower. See list above.
      Also in that same argument you could say well heavies are just mediums too, more HP, armour and alpha but worse mobility and DPM.
      The entire situation is a stupid joke.

      Now they have the same or even less view range of equal tier meds and even heavies.
      The guns are literally worthless at their tiers.
      They have no armour or HP to be able to get stuck in.
      They don’t have accuracy or penetration to support.
      They don’t have alpha to trade or DPM to fight.

      The only thing they have is the mobility and camo.
      And even the camo isn’t that much better than mediums of their tier in most cases.

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  5. Bricktop says:

    “Oh, third iteration, finally they will fix what they did to lts…”
    *More shells*
    Well, that’s something.
    PS. Pls buff Löwe ammo capacity so I can dream of killing entirety of enemy team 5 times over instead of 4 times.

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  6. Martin says:

    Why did they taken 10 shots magazine from bulldog? His MM is still the same as before he will be meeting tiers 8-10 ( before it was 8-10 too and he was tier 7 ). And now WG leave him with 6 rounds drum? And the reason is because he has now better MM? 😀 I think that they are confused with the new light tanks and doing the worst changes ever in WG history :-D.

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    1. banjoman150 says:

      In case of the M41 Walker Bulldog he was moved from T7 to T8 wich means effectively the same MM as before but for some reason the think he is overperforming now …

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      1. horizonwalker says:

        Oh yes, I forgot to remind you, medium Tanks CAN do both scout AND dealing damage ALL TOGETHER! What’s the point of this change then?

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      2. pixywing says:

        Why play a tier 10 scout that has less view range than tier 10 mediums well having the same camo rating while stationary? Might as well get the extra view range, dpm, penetration, health, and armor, while hardly losing mobility and camo rating on the move. Sacrificing 25+ mm of pen, 400+ hit points and 20%+ less dpm makes scouts just terrible mediums.

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      3. Nocomment says:

        “Set them up with scout load out and maybe scout OR set up as braulers and deal damage BUT NOT BOTH!!!! That was the point of the changes.”

        But its fine for Meds to be able to do both better without a forced choice?

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      4. Nocomment says:

        Second to that, these nerfed lt’s setup as scouts still are inferior to same tier meds with optics and barely compete with them when they don’t. Isn’t that what Lt’s are meant to be :the Teams Eyes. Shame WG put a sharp stick into them.

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  7. Mikosah says:

    Considering that mediums are already perfectly adequate scouts while also having respectable firepower, these new lights are inherently obsolete. They desperately need a something to justify themselves. And frankly, view range to counter camo-snipers and mobility+DPM to aggressively attack are things the game as a whole needs pretty badly.

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    1. pixywing says:

      I would love for scouts to have an another ability added that lets them just melt bush camo so they could see tds hiding behind bushes dozens of meters before a medium could.

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  8. fastcatale says:

    -The T71 has better reload time with the same clip that does the same damage than the Bulldog and it’s tier 7 (19s vs. 34s), so the Bulldog needs less reload time or keep the autoloader as it was before.

    -The Bat.-Châtillon 12 t needs at least 1 more shell in the magazine.

    -The T-100 LT needs +10 meters view range and less dispersion from .46 to .42 or .43

    -The AMX 13 90 needs +10 meters view range.

    -All tier 6 LT must have 370m view range.

    -All tier 7 LT must have 380m view range.

    -All tier 8 LT must have the same view range or more than the tier 7’s.

    -All tier 9 LT need 390 or more view range.

    -ALL TIER 10 LT MUST HAVE MORE VIEW RANGE THAN A HEAVY TANK, NOT LESS.

    And one more thing, bring back the derp to the VK 28.01.

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    1. pixywing says:

      Add undo nerfs to ELC and just move it up to tier 6.

      An entire view range rebalance might be needed, because heavy tanks like the IS-7 shouldn’t have 400m view range to begin with as you throw vents and optics on that thing and all of a sudden you’re a heavy tank that can scout.

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      1. fastcatale says:

        The thing is with the actual view range system, most of the medium tanks can perform as light tanks but with better guns and HP. If WG just make mediums and heavies more depended to light tanks by decreasing their view range, that would balance the game a bit, so a light tank wouldn’t need great gun but more mobility and view range to perform well.

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  9. Rombat says:

    The best scout in the game is still batchat 25 t so tier 10 lights useless. I want my crews of my tier 8 lights to be trained for the new tier 8 lights and not for the uselles tier 9 lights.

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  10. Rombat says:

    I guess that the next moove from wg wil be the nerf of view range of mediums and heavys in order to make lights usefull…bad times are waiting for us in wot.

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  11. Q says:

    “The M41 Bulldog had been left with a 76 mm cannon with a magazine loading system, capable of causing significant damage with a single reload: in connection with the transition to the standard match maker, the number of shells in the drum was reduced to 6.”

    And again: as a current T7 LT it meets T6 and T10 tanks already since it has scout MM.
    As a T8 with normal MM it will STILL MEET THE SAME tanks.

    These changes make to sense whatsoever.

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    1. Wonderer says:

      Less so when you find out that they kept the reload same while removing 4 shells.. The autoloader no longer is an option on the bulldog. 1200 dpm or so.. When t71 tier lower with same clip autoloader has 1800.. I want some of the stuff wg balance department is smoking..

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  12. Anonymous says:

    ALL the Light Tanks below Tier 8 –
    nerfed slowly bit by bit to death, I wont play any of mine now most were bad enough before – but now!

    So now it may as well read

    R.I.P Light Tanks

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  13. Anonymous says:

    they will learn when no one plays the new lights and people just stay at T8 or the updated T9’s and people tell the T10’s to go get good, its typical WG, they have a good patch in the pipeline they drink too much vodka and it all goes to crap…..gg wg, gg

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  14. Why are WG so ducking retarded.

    If you move a scout up a tier and remove the scout mm….fucnign surprise…..it STILL HAS THE SAME DUCKING MM. So the nerds are not needed and in many cases they actually need buffs ffs….

    What a joke.
    Before the 2nd test nerf to lights they were actually balanced for the most part although some still needed buffs. E.g the French.

    They had worse (generally across the tiers compared to meds) :
    Penetration
    Accuracy
    DPM
    Reload
    Alpha
    HP
    Armour

    They made up for it by having :
    View range
    Camo
    Mobility

    They were very well balanced and still worse than mediums for most maps and situations especially in corridor citt meta where scouting means shit all. But no…everyone wants to whine.
    What people need to understand is that the lights don’t stop at tier 8 now. These are tier 10 tanks and they need to be competitive with tier 10 tanks.

    Also the argument that they are just mediums is complete false. The meds have way more survivability and firepower. See list above.
    Also in that same argument you could say well heavies are just mediums too, more HP, armour and alpha but worse mobility and DPM.
    The entire situation is a stupid joke.

    Now they have the same or even less view range of equal tier meds and even heavies.
    The guns are literally worthless at their tiers.
    They have no armour or HP to be able to get stuck in.
    They don’t have accuracy or penetration to support.
    They don’t have alpha to trade or DPM to fight.

    The only thing they have is the mobility and camo.
    The mobility means very little in current corridor meta and doesn’t change the dynamic of the game at all except for a few climbs and for chasing damage at the end of the game.
    And even the camo isn’t that much better than mediums of their tier in most cases with the exception of keeping it on the move but you still get outspotted by any same tier tank who is camping bush…

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  15. Getoveryourself says:

    Like with most things WG could run a wet dream. The t10 kites are worthless now, the arty is even more op thanks before, and the new MM insures you will have 3 arty in every game. How the he’ll could something so simple get so fucked up in such a short time.

    Solution roll the Ltd back to the way they were in the SB. Take party back to the way it was back in 8.6 with nothing higher that tier 8. And I.sweet an algorithm so that “some” game’s in the MM will not have arty. Ok now that I have solved all the world’s issues, it’s time for beer!

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