22 comments on “WN8 Value Changes

  1. Anonymous says:

    So IS7, 50b, t57, IS4, type5… all have same expected damage values?! are they fkin kidding us? and AMX AC mle. 48 and skorpion, for expamle? what are they smoking?!!!!!




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    • Anonymous says:

      They are smoking the “I dont want to spend all this time doing this any more” pipe. If you want things to go back to the old ways you are welcome to spend the time updating the values on your own.




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    • morelc says:

      They are doing it because basically nobody wants or has time to do all the individual tanks anymore. At this point they should just get rid of WN8.




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      • SpeedyCraft51 says:

        That’s actualy the best thing they could do, and that would make the gqme such a better place too…




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  2. nuke97 says:

    Great -.-” I just lost about -50wn8 when every one of my tank wn8 grew. ( I had 1891wn8 now i have 1856 wn8 -.-)




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  3. Dakado says:

    This is the death of this rating because by this update WN8 breaks his own definition. WN8 was the first rating that considered stats on individual tanks, now it does not because the values are the same for all tanks on the same tier.




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    • It’s all damaged based anyway. A good scout trying to be a scout can’t be rated this way. A good heavy shouldn’t be rated this way. Good for mediums and TD’s maybe. Not sure how arty has been adjusted now that damage is much less a factor.




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  4. Seth Hill says:

    Interesting. Looks like they are associating a given expected stat for all of a certain tank type at a given tier. All Tier 10 meds are expected to have 1.03 frags, 1882.27 dmg, 1.43 spotting, 0.80 defense, and 49.60 win rate. Am I correct that they then adjust the values per tank using the deltas? If so, wouldn’t the value for the 121B be different than the 121 since there are few 121Bs in the game and the stats that it will have compared to the 121 (vbaddict site shows differences in the numbers)?




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  5. Snow_Viper_NA says:

    So does this mean my wn8 will go up or down?




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  6. In_Memory_Of_Bud_Spencer says:

    I guess many of the values will change soon. They stacked tanks (Type (Med, Light, Ari, …) and Tier and gave them the same values.




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  7. In_Memory_Of_Bud_Spencer says:

    Damn, I was wrong. They changed to “average expected values” (http://forum.wotlabs.net/index.php?/topic/26899-wn8-change-to-averaged-expected-values/).




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  8. VonOhlnhausen says:

    The site just seems to be giving a lot of not responding notes. So I’ll ask here, are they changing their ridiculously small sample size finally, or better still doing a full population statistic, to improve their accuracy to a reasonable level?




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  9. Marc Schreiber says:

    I wonder why they would imply these changes anyway. It makes no sense




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  10. art952013 says:

    Still no XVM for obj252u Defender but the non-Defender obj252u has XVM….




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  11. buh! says:

    Nice rise 🙂
    914>950




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  12. sixense2 says:

    Until they include assisted damage in WN8 (they might as well make WN9 for all I care) it’s become useless. Having a 4k spotted damage battle give me 300-odd WN8 just because I made 150 damage on my 13/75 yet got a Scout medal, Spotter, and over 4k spotted damage on half of enemy team. Apparently that’s nothing but hey, those 150 damage REALLY matter.




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  13. dimo says:

    omg, i rerolled my low-tiers for nothing :/




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  14. dimo says:

    you are bad persons wn8 team! you are bad, bad persons!




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  15. Anonymous says:

    My wn8 was 1263 before the 6th of may and when i looked my stats today my wn8 is 1250 🙁 wtf ? Is it due to these changes ? Did they change the “good” “average” “above average”… rating also ? Please give me some explanation. Thks




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  16. Anonymous says:

    Win8 on wot labs is different to the rating i have on Wot info, which is accurate ?im confused




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