SirFoch & Circon Incident/Drama

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Hello,

as most of you may be aware by now of the recent drama, I deliberately chose to not jump into writing any article until now but I will share with you the statement from Jingles’ post from his FB page as I am 100% on the same page (opinion-wise) as him and I could not better word it:

There are still a few topics I will want to go over about this subject, will do it soon.

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109 comments on “SirFoch & Circon Incident/Drama

  1. Patata Caliente says:

    That is a great move by Jingles. The man has style.




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  2. SpeedyCraft51 says:

    They deserved their sanctions because at that point they are just insulting WG for the sake of doing it, and no company will accept this kind of behaviour from their community representatives.

    However if the fake copyright strike happens to be true, WG is in deeeeeeeeep shit.




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    • heldermartins1 says:

      In every aspect of our lives, we need that “11th” man. Otherwise, life would be like living “1984”.

      If you wanna be living “1984” live, just watch a certain brit streamer. I’m sure you will be blessed.




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      • El Diablo says:

        You mean QueerBaby? Yeah that’s a total wargaming cock muncher




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      • SpeedyCraft51 says:

        I hate QB he does nothing but sucking WG’s D.
        I like SirFoch and Circon, but they crossed the line between “criticizing WG” and “throwing shit at them because that’s the new trend”.

        If he did the same video while controling his Tourette’s syndrom he would have gotten away with it. They have both been criticizing WG very severely since chrismas times and were still CCs until now, and for a good reason : they were still at a okay-ish level of profanity. Here Foch basicaly made a video of him insulting WG and thats it ; and no company will accept that even the nicest and most tolerant ones.

        WG is only wrong on the strike threat, that’s censorship, but they are definitely right to exclude him from the CC program.




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  3. I’m sure Foch is heartbroken about his status being removed. And Circon is 100% right, highway is a terrible map and Victor’s son should stay far away from designing WoT maps.

    I honestly hope they did use copyright strikes, in which case they deserve whatever comes next.




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    • armando30 says:

      I don’t know exactly how long it took from him uploading until it got taken down but I believe WG might be in the wrong regardless of which mechanism they used
      what it should have happened is SirFoch, being an adult, remove his own video and “re-upload” it in a more constructive manner, had he come out and said
      “the language used was too aggressive and would like to apologize to anyone who felt offended by it, HOWEVER I STILL STAND for my opinion that WG did wrong when modeling this tank, furthermore it hurts the game, and the company, image since IT DOES pass the message to active or potential players that for them money comes always first instead of making the game something everyone can enjoy from tier 1 to 10”
      he does not need to retract his opinion BUT we live in a civilized world and using so much slander is not the correct way to voice a opinion




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      • Necro says:

        Curse words are all relative.

        In my culture, here in Compton California, we curse more. We call each other niggas (not the other N word), we call each other homie, bruh/bro, I even call my friends bitches and they are cool with it. They call me the same.

        I know not all cultures are like this and some are more sensitive than others, but honestly, y’all need to get those sticks out yo asses and live a little.

        SirFoch was being highly critical for a reason! And that is that he cannot stand for the direction WG is taking his and most of our favorite game. He had balls to go on like he did and I support him. QB and other CCs as much as I like them are too much ass kissers for WG. Their opinions are always in favor of WG even when the game is going downhill.




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      • armando30 says:

        I don’t think so, where I live people also curse a lot BUT not when they are trying to win an discussion, the one that rages first loses reason since he can no longer make a sound argument
        I still believe that SirFoch was right to be outraged with how WG conducts business, afterall do we really need 6 or 7 german/soviet high-tier premium TDs when the US tree has no efficient high-tier TD crew trainer? then comes the Obj.252 and now the gold-spaming (we know how the T32 struggles vs tier 10) Chrysler K OP heavy tanks, or the Type 59 and E-25 issue that keep being sold despite being gamebreaking
        even so he as an Adult had to apologize for the language used while defending his opinion regarding the Chrysler K/GF, even if he does not which to apologize to WG I think he at least has to do so to his audience




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      • madogthefirst says:

        It is only slander if it is false, which it wasn’t.




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    • heldermartins1 says:

      And this is why Foch deserves our respects. And no, WG is not in “deeeeeeeeeep shit”: Foch is the one who plays online games for a living, not those necromongers at WG. Although, some of them used to play and then got hired and then stop that activity and then started a new one…




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      • grekus says:

        Fuck of HELDERMARTINS1 you are so big shit that I fuck you.

        And now respect me 😉




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      • heldermartins1 says:

        GREKUS, do u really need my respect? Say it isnt so, pls…




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      • SpeedyCraft51 says:

        They ARE in deep shit.
        Not for removing FOCH from the CC program, but for threatening to strike his channel. This is called censorship, and it can make a lot of damages to WG. Because even if you love the game, this kind of practice usualy tends to not make players very happy ; and to an extent they take risks on a legal scale with this kind of move.




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      • grekus says:

        HELDERMARTINS1 – no i dont want your respect. But you want me to respect sirfoch that is using fucknin almost every word. I don’t respect that kind of people. SirFoch could remove his movie fromyoutobe, make new sayibg the same butbwith respect to wg and to his viewers but noooo, shitstorm is better. Maybe he tought that this kind of fuckmovie will give him more viewers and money, but what a disapoitment, there qill be no moneybat all 😮




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      • Infernal969 says:

        @grekus
        Because being polite with WG ever worked before. Apparently you have to say “fuck you WG” 10 times for them to notice your complaint.
        Maybe with this shitstorm WG will finally notice that the community is not happy that they are driving this game into the shitter one idiotic decision after another because Kisly needs a new yacht.




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    • wot121 says:

      So Foch doesn’t pay WG for using the tool WG provides for his living and what do they get in return? A big, phat ‘Fuck You WG’.
      I mean, this is beyond pitiful.




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      • Infernal969 says:

        Oh, yes, I’m sure that Foch hasn’t spent a single penny on WoT.
        Shill harder, WG drone.




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      • Matthew Shine says:

        @wot121 says
        What fucking drugs are you on, you WG dick sucking cuntrag?




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      • SirNopp says:

        By playing WG’s game while streaming and posting on YouTube, SirFoch is basically giving the game free advertisement. Does WG pay him for this? No they don’t. I’m literally using the same logic here as your arguement so I hope you have enough brain cells to see the folly of your ways.




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    • Welp.. here’s the evidence for Jingles. If WG denies to Jingles that it didn’t do it.. they’re lying to him. If they admit it or not.. they’re screwed either way.




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  4. Catalinike says:

    Sirfoch ‘s video was copyrated by WG and putted down by youtube not Foch…..also foch was threaten that ..they “wg” will demoneytize he’s videos…(all of them)
    Welcome to comunism….WG should defenetly be pwned for beeing against free speach and they should pay hard for taking action against it….also WG just fucted the most loved salty streamer you will ever see and that upseted more than half WOT Twich viewers




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    • Tony says:

      Thats not communism, you miserable putz. Bullying sure, but not communism.




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      • nbornkilla says:

        yeah sure its not communism lol fucker they dont respect free speech so gues what tony fuck you fuck you fuck you now go and do a copyright cus i offended you lol




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    • No_Quarter says:

      Foch took down video, he said that WG most likely cannot censor his videos but he didn’t really want to go that deep.
      Also original video still exists in some shape and form




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  5. noobgonebad says:

    sorry but as soon as I saw the video and title of the video I unsubscribed from sir foch. I think that video was totally inappropriate. but Jingles is class act




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  6. Anonymous says:

    I could careless.




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  7. BattleBudgie says:

    Now as much as I like Foch and his brutally honest style, I have to say he went a bit too far with this. I don’t know about the legal issues with the copyright stuff, I’m not a lawyer but looking at it from a strictly civilian perspective I would say WG’s reaction was totally justified and even reasonably politely formulated (more politely than I would’ve formulated in the same situation). You don’t yell “fuckyoufuckyoufuckyouyoufuckinjoke” to the company that (indirectly) pays your bills. You can criticize them and do it harshly, that’s what Foch was doing the past years on several occasions. But you need to know where the borderline is because at a certain point you get from criticizing to libel.




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    • wot121 says:

      What do you mean indirectly? Have you seen his viewership numbers when he streams some other crappy game?




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      • Infernal969 says:

        He spends most of his time being a FREE living advertisement for their game and all of the money he gets from that he gets from the people watching him, not the company. Yeah, I can see how that would equal to being WG’s wageslave.
        Try harder, numbskull.




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      • MM says:

        yes, I saw it. Its 150-200 regulary. Not more.




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  8. Backslash says:

    Copyright infringement is a tricky matter. A video game is not like movies or music in that in only benefits the player and not anyone else. By simple putting a video where the individual plays the game shouldn’t constitute the missuse of the product. I’m not a law junky but such claims of copyright infringement are great misuses of power.




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  9. wot121 says:

    So, 2 of the most toxic WoT streamers get in trouble with WG. Color me surprised. No wonder the community can be so toxic with these ‘contributors’ contributing nothing but toxicity.

    Thanks for setting the record straight, Jingles, in your typical calm, cool and collected way. I don’t agree with everything you say but at least I read it all thanks to the way you’ve worded your argument.

    Toxic people rag on QB and Jingles for their mild mannered ways not realizing that’s actually how people behave in real life. No wonder these 2 dwarf everyone else WoT related.

    I’m actually surprised at the action taken by WG. I’d come cracking down on those 2 like the wrath of God himself.




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    • pixywing says:

      @WOT121 Rather have someone call out the garbage WOT if doing in making the game P2W as right now the only viable tier 6 and 8 tanks for Clan Wars and strongholds are you guessed it premiums. With more power creeped premiums on the way Foch called them out which is more than QB has ever done calling the E-25 fine.




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      • wot121 says:

        I’ve been to SF and Circ streams. It’s toxicity from beginning to end and their chat eats it all up. I don’t call the video he did taking out the trash.
        Besides, it’s all a schtick. There’s nothing real about what they do. Unless you think they go around their real lives with that same Twitch persona.




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      • pixywing says:

        Guess you never heard of actors for T.V. shows as they provide you with entertainment as well.




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      • wot121 says:

        I haven’t heard any GoT actor slandering HBO!
        Do you have a source?




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      • heldermartins1 says:

        WOT121, standing here, writing “true” and “false” left and right and try to debunk urself the entire time?? Because it seems pretty much clear who u are and what ur doing here… u are not the average Joe Troll, that is for sure.




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    • heldermartins1 says:

      WOT121, another one who thinks everything must be in line…




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      • wot121 says:

        As opposed to what? Run around yelling ‘Fuck WG’ like a raging lunatic?




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      • heldermartins1 says:

        The good/bad thing about internet is nobody knows whos behind written words. I’ve chosen to display my tag as is because it is my true name, and I’ve the courage to do so. Can you do the same, WANNABE121?

        “As opposed to what?” If ur thinking not having a discording voice, no matter what the noise it makes, a good think, then ur probably living under a rock, or (this one is more appealing to me) u havent got over of the “old ways”.

        And I can only accept u calling others raging lunatics if u have the correct medical degree.




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      • wot121 says:

        Hey man, feel free to drop your address and phone number. We can meet up for a brewski and discuss WoT Mr. HELDERMARTINS1 whoever the fuck you are.




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      • heldermartins1 says:

        That would be nice. However, u dont sound like a person to hang around with, so, u better save it for ur entourage.




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  10. Actually who cares?

    If you are intelligent enough, you can criticize and praise things at the same time. If u go fullretard and rage, well then don’t get surprised if WG doesn’t tolerate it…

    Internet drama = Cat fight
    End of story.




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  11. ReyGran says:

    Well it seems this might turn into a major shitstorm as various Youtubers get a hold of this case : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmvwiTs7Dvg




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  12. Noidea says:

    @WOT121 are you kidding me QB is a total kiss ass and tool of WG, When has he ever been honest and said that a tank was crap when it was? how many tanks has that “used car sells man” sold for WG? Foch on the other hand is “Honest” and call WG on there shit. Respect to him for being a stand up guy.




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    • wot121 says:

      Are you kidding me? QB is nuanced. Maybe he’s not for you if you prefer the in-your-face FU Foch and Circ styles.

      On a totally unrelated note, it’d be funny to know how many of Foch supporters actually gonna go out and buy this OP POS.

      See what I did there? I called the tank an OP POS. I didn’t say FUCK YOU WG and I don’t even make a living from WG’s game.




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      • Anonymous says:

        I prefer people who know what they are talking about. QB used to say E50 was a bad tank. If you weren’t some kind of silly faggot, you wouldn’t think so highly of QB.




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      • DracoDS says:

        Most people here aren’t intelligent enough to read in-between the lines. Don’t try to convince them otherwise, it’s pointless.




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  13. PzBarkhorn says:

    So, someone use a product made by WG to make some earning. This someone then start bashing WG because he consider what WG is doing to be just a pile of cr*p (but continues making his earnings over WG product), and go all the way down the road throwing all kind of profanities at WG (still using WG’s product to make his earnings). So far, we have many ppl here applauding said guy because he had the balls to say whatever came to his mind. No one said a line about this person’s lack of ethics…

    WG then threatens to copyright all videos made by said person (wich might not be something ETHICAL to do, but is totally LEGAL) and half of the community went on fire.

    People tend to forget that is not illegal to use WG games to produce youtube content and profit over it just because WG allow (yes, allow is the right term) ppl to do it in order to give the game more visibility. It is good for their business. And if someone abuses it, like SF and circon use to do, they totally have the legal right to copyright the videos. If they step into drug abusing and decide to copyright any video with WG content just for the lolz, it is still their legal right (tought it would be a shoot in their own foot)!

    As said before, there are more polite ways to criticize something or someone without resorting to such toxic vocabulary like SF and Circon. Damn, i can even insult someone without abusing the words. I dont need to say “this game is utter crap, premium tank bias, everybody at WG are a bunch of retards, power creep blahblahblah” when all i need to say is “So far the game is failing to achieve the majority of the playerbase expectations, i hope WG will finally take a smart move and look what the playerbase really wants”.

    P.S.: i dont like QB approach too, i think he isnt enough critic when he needs to be.




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  14. mredweird says:

    Foch said he doesn’t make any money from monetizing his WoT videos.
    If that’s true, It’s not like his life depends on making them…and it would nullify most of the comments here.




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  15. Afrika says:

    I love Sir Foch for being brutally honest about WG’s money grabbing schemes be it the recent streams of OP premium tanks like the T26E5, Liberite, Scorpion G or be it the retarded T10 tank at T8 (Defender) he has been true to the masses.

    I have not seen the video but I doubt the christler K would be anything different.

    The Russian mafia running WG got upset on people telling the truth.




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  16. Anonymous says:

    Yeah sure as if that buffoon jingles will do anything




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  17. James k says:

    Gotta love the interwebz drama…..




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  18. siralexice says:

    Both guys had some comments that were insulting and inappropriate. But WG should also think about what caused such extreme reactions by 2 old contributors.




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  19. sefhyro says:

    acho bem e tomo o lado de sir fosch e do circon, a vida nao e um mar de rosas como alguns outros contribuidores da WG fazem passar… eu por varias vezes fui sencurado e parcialmente banido do forum, por dizer o que penso, mas como nao ha reconhecimento deles, por mim podem ir ha merda que nao me faz diferença




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  20. Anonymous says:

    Well done Sir – excellent ballanced response.




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  21. Scarvalho says:

    Funny thiing, Jingles didnt had this good guy treatment with Gaijin when they F*cked up,




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    • Jayrod413 says:

      Because the video in question wasn’t just about insulting WG and plus WG doesn’t do this on a daily basis with no justification other than a not 11/10 review of their precious game




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  22. heldermartins1 says:

    Whats funny is we all argue over pixelated tanks, played by 2 guys who arent even related to any of us (me thinks…), who earn their living playing those pixelated tanks, on expensive pc’s, bought by/with the help of many supporters, to amuse and entertain us, eager gaming farts. Such is the capitalist way. I, for once, Im not complaining. Just saying.

    Well, just gonna grab more popcorns and sit back, wayyy back, and watch the show.




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  23. Havoc199 says:

    Foch and Circon as well to an extent are by far the most honest CC’s WE have.

    Instead of of WG fanboys like QB and overly PC people like Jingles and DezGames. They do not hesistate to criticise WG when they do stupid shit….and they do a lot of stupid shit. Not only that but both of them have made countless videos and suggestions to WG on how to fix this game. And of course WG being WG they dont listen a shred and instead listen to the whiny red noobs who don’t have a clue of how the game works.

    I am not saying what they did is ok. I haven’t seen the videos and I know better than to trust what anyone else says on the internet. So I am not going to judge this particular incident.

    However this really seems like a move by WG to censor the 2 most critical of the Community Contributors.

    Most people watch videos of complete sellouts like QB or people like Jingles; who I do watch and find amusing but also keep in mind that he isn’t exceptional at the game nor does he dig too deep on WG unlike what he did to Gaijin.




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    • Mizutayio says:

      Strange, QB has never appeared to be a sellout to me, either i’ve only been watching videos hwere he also says negative stuff or everone thinks youtubers who don’t say at least 10 negative things about a tank are sellouts.




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      • theundying says:

        QB is so biased, he never calls a tank straight-out OP, be it the former E5 or now the ridiculously overbuffed Maus. Just calls them “very good” “very competitive” instead of the powercreeped shit they are.
        Same goes for ALL of the newer premiums, Skorpion G, Patriot, Liberté, they’re way easier to play than their non-premium counterparts.
        QB never criticized them for it.
        The ONLY thing that made me respect him at least a bit was his video on the LT nerfs – which were totally uncalled for and over the top.
        But apart from that he is the most PC shill the WoT community has.
        I still enjoy watching his old video where he just loses his shit “YOU FUCKING IDIOT!… OH HE’S SO BAD, HE’S SO BAD…!”
        At least he felt like a human being.
        Foch may be too rough in his wording but Circon imo has the best balance of snarky commentary and skill/knowledge of the game.




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      • Mizutayio says:

        So what you’re saying he basically has an interesting choice of words, i don’t really watch his videos but based from what you’ve said he just replaced “OP” with “very good” or “very competitive”
        And yeah, foch went to far.
        And about circon, yeah in his facecam he always looks like he doesn’t really care about what’s happening. In the replays he uploads on youtube he always seems to be somewhere else while still playing the game.




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      • SpottableSky says:

        Meanwhile WG is taking WoT down the shitter with their powercreep premiums and overbuffed tanks that will most likely be nerfed it atleast a year *cough* e5 *cough*. And QBs videos are nothing but butterflies and roses just like the one he made when it occured to WG it would be a good idea to resell the e25 last December…




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  24. MOTHER'S LOLL says:

    Jingles +1




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  25. LeeRoy says:

    The only problem I see in any of this is Ph3lan or what ever his name is threatened a YouTube take down. That was a bad idea and it will cause a shitstorm




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  26. Steve says:

    Well, we have evidence now that WG threatened to DMCA takedown Foch’s videos in order to gain his compliance. That’s it. The smoking gun. The company is fucking garbage and deserves to fail.




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  27. Nathan Wood says:

    Quickybaby, Dezgames, Other contributors; WG Dick suckers with no personality hidden away.
    Jingles and CIrcon- Not afraid to be themselves
    SIrFoch-Straight up to the point, didn’t ask be to a community contributor anyways. He said he would not change his style. Also attacking him WG, You done fucked up so badly.




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  28. Anonymous says:

    Meh WG should just deny them any use of their IP, they dont make any money of WG according to themselves so no threat to livelyhood and probably better for their mental health




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  29. Anonymous says:

    The evidence for the takedown threat against Foch is pretty clear in the emails. Let’s see if Jingles plans to do something. Otherwise, his long speech just looks like one content provider trying to siphon eyeballs from another. Making Jingles more shameful than Wargaming itself.




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  30. Iosif says:

    Does Wargaming have to act like Communists and cover up their mistakes?




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  31. betterdead thanred says:

    though sirfoch used a jackhammer, he hit the nail right on the head
    i support him




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  32. a jaskass says:

    i found circon to be a little whiney bitch about it, on a soap box level bitch but he had a point. sort of.




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  33. Shiva says:

    SirFoch imgur:
    http://imgur.com/a/RGPfh
    Streamer making an Elephant from an ant.




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  34. Gledr says:

    so wait what happened. from what I can tell they trashed Wargaming. but then they blocked them for giving honest feedback. is there a video




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  35. Hmm I was seriously looking forward to dusting off my pitchfork and torches, guess I have to be patient…




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  36. daryl grenfell says:

    their again how does one call attention too a product with out too much advertising, simple cause a huge out burst so their is a lot of talk about it. Yes both sides are right in what they are saying, yes both sides are wrong in doing what they are doing. Free advertising, go ask your local member of parliament {MP}
    Perhaps we all need to do some protesting and hit WG where it hurts the most, only play teir 5 and below, don”t pay for any thing in gold nor hand over cash. Head office has to be paid for some how?




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  37. Wayne Bereman says:

    I am officially done with Jingles. What a butt kisser.

    A company threatening legal action that they could not possibly win just to bully and harass a critic is beyond disgusting.

    Either Jingles is being a butt kisser, or he’s now afraid to criticize WG. Either way he blew it, WG blew it, and I’m definitely not watching Jingles anymore out of principle; and maybe dropping tanks too.




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  38. Rick says:

    The interaction between 2 people is just that,their interaction and for you people to feel involved is just lack of intellectual stimulation and soap opera fodder …..lol




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  39. LittleFinger says:

    Dudes slating QB and Dez for being fanboys/PC should see their takes on the 9.18 lights nerf.




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  40. LittleFinger says:

    Dudes slating QB and Dez as WG pussies should see their deeply critical takes on the 9.18 light nerf




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  41. StevoMS says:

    I think neither party is free from wrong in this incident, both streamers were overly critical in thier videos which lead them to being offensive and WG was completely in the right to takedown the vidoes. Fine. However, I do agree with Jingles if that in the case of them attempting to copyright the videos WG gaming crossed thr line. But this all should NOT draw away from the point that Foch is right, sure he definitely went OVER OVER board, but the point he is making is more than right; i mean, go on tanks.gg right now and compare the stats of the krysler and the t32, the only significant stat the t32 has over the krysler is gun depression which is rediculous to the point that you can understand where foch is comming from. Maybe if the krysler was an american vk4502 b and rly slow the stats would kinda make sense but that thing has medium tank manouverability. Whn i first saw the thing move i thought the video was spead up. So you can argue over how bad foch fked up or how bad Wg fked up, but just remember that WG has made a premium tank that is greately better than its non premium counter part.




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  42. Concerned and Experienced WoT Player says:

    After Foch’s rant, here is a video of why he is so frustrated with Wargaming and the direction they are taking the game. Basically WG is taking a lot of the “talent” out of the game and “balancing” it so good players have less impact and poor and/or new players win more by “dumbing down” the game…. and I agree with him. See the YouTube link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT36zcdnAKM




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  43. rqklllklkdsvx kjfdsadx says:

    It’s so pathetic how is this still a thing. Ridicilous as hell, 100% pointless to talk about it even further.




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  44. Concerned and Experienced WoT Player says:

    Additional comment: Watching Sir Foch on Twitch this morning, and he says that Wargaming’s current path is wrecking the game and he sad about it, because this game could be so much more…. again, Wargaming is removing the skill out of the game and “dumbing” it down. He predicts if this game continues in this direction, it will diminish to the point of a failed game in a year. I totally agree with his “constructive” comments….. listen up Wargaming! Please Sir Foch loves this game and so do I!!




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  45. Bring back Wt E100 says:

    And once more you can see what a sheep Qb is for wg..

    Ps: without any balls.




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  46. pollakdelet says:

    Ples do ratte, we ar waiting for you and polack delet




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  47. Gunner says:

    Jingles I think you are sucking up to wargaming big time in this article, I think both Guys views are there own and should be able to vent there own personal opinions about Wargaming, Wargaming do not believe in Free speech at all, I know this from contact I have had with them in the past




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    • Celtic says:

      There is venting and then there is acting out. What Jingles posted here is professional, not sucking up… which demonstrates how little the general public grasps when it come to acting like an adult.
      Foch had very good points… but being a CC, that doesn’t give him permission to slander the company. WG had full right to defend their name and property. How THEY went about it was wrong, but I’d expect any company to do the same.

      BTW: Free Speech means you’re free from government prosecution, NOT from companies/persons when you decide to act like an a**hole.




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  48. Free SirFoch says:

    Wargaming has clearly given up on running a legitimate game. They have decided to go into full Gaijin PR mode. Someone doesn’t give a QuickyBaby-esque glowing review of their product, they pull their “community contributor” status, and sic lawyers on them to threaten to file fraudulent DMCA strikes against them and destroy their ability to earn a living through YouTube and Twitch, etc.

    It does not surprise me that Jingles and Rita have thrown SirFoch under the bus to keep in the good graces of their Wargaming bosses and got get DMCA’ed and sued into the stone age themselves.

    Don’t tell me that corporations can get into trouble for filing fraudulent DMCA strikes. As we learned from the Leonard French Youtube channel, the bar for a corporation filing a DMCA strike is very low. Just send an email. The bar for the victim to remove the strike and have the corporation punished for filing a fraudulent DMCA strike is very high. It requires an actual trial. Even if the victim prevails over the corporation, the punishment for the corporation is a slap on the wrist.




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  49. 4zw says:

    i wonder how many CC’s left the WG programm after that….cose now we know for sure that Foch was threaten with DMCA….a post on their forums saying that they r sorry isnt enough…




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