WoT Second French Heavy Line Stats

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Good day everyone,

Some initial stats for the second French heavy line, which is looking to occupy tiers 8 through 10. The main deference between these and the current line are a lack of autoloaders and somewhat heavier armor:

AMX 65 t

  • Tier: 8
  • HP: 1550
  • Engine Power: 1000hp
  • Power to Weight: 15.38 hp/t
  • Speed: +40/-15 kph
  • Hull Traverse: 25 deg/sec.
  • Turret Traverse: 27.1 deg/sec.
  • Terrain Resistance: 1.534/1.726/2.397
  • Hull Armor: 100/80/??mm
  • Turret Armor: 250/80/??mm
  • View Range: 370m
  • Signal Range: 750m

  • Gun: 120mm D. 1203
  • Damage: 400/400/515
  • Penetration: 218/325/65mm
  • Reload: 13.233 sec.
  • Accuracy: .345
  • Aim Time: 2.59 sec.
  • Depression/Elevation: -8/+13 deg.

 

AMX M4 mle. 51

  • Tier: 9
  • HP: 1900
  • Engine Power: 1000 hp
  • Power to Weight: 13.7 hp/t
  • Speed: +40/-15 kph
  • Hull Traverse: 28 deg/sec.
  • Turret Traverse: 29.2 deg/sec.
  • Terrain Resistance: 1.247/1.342/2.205
  • Hull Armor: 180/60/??mm
  • Turret Armor: 300/80/??mm
  • View Range: 380m
  • Signal Range: 782.1m

 

  • Gun: 127mm/54 Model 1948
  • Damage: 470/470/610
  • Penetration: 242/258/64mm
  • Reload: 11.986 sec.
  • Accuracy: .326
  • Aim Time: 2.21 sec.
  • Depression/Elevation: -8/+15 deg.

 

AMX M4 mle. 54

  • Tier: 10
  • HP: 2200
  • Engine Power: 1200 hp
  • Power to Weight: 15 hp/t
  • Speed: +40/-15 kph
  • Hull Traverse: 32 deg/sec.
  • Turret Traverse: 33.4 deg/sec.
  • Terrain Resistance: 1.247/1.342/2.205
  • Hull Armor: 220/60/??mm
  • Turret Armor: 300/80/??mm
  • View Range: 390m
  • Signal Range: 782.1m

 

  • Gun: 130mm/45 Model 1935
  • Damage: 560/560/640
  • Penetration: 250/280/65mm
  • Reload: 14.192 sec.
  • Accuracy: .316
  • Aim Time: 2.11 sec.
  • Depression/Elevation: -8/+15 deg.
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58 comments on “WoT Second French Heavy Line Stats

  1. Enigmaticmuffin says:

    they’ve finally answered my prayers
    the second french heavy line




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  2. WoT Gamer says:

    That premium penetration though … duh …




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  3. Infernal969 says:

    And again a half-assed French line, just high tiers to suck out monniez with free exp and premium tank spam.




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    • metalscourge says:

      not exactly… technically wg could add AT LEAST 3 more heavies that could make it as tier 10. but this is a good step by wg so far…. we will probably see them at some point in the future.

      FYI: the tier 10 could have add 280mm of frontal armor based on the final blueprints of the 49 project. but obviously that would be pretty hard to balance and so wg nerfed it to a STILL strong 220mm with SLOPING.




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  4. WoT Gamer says:

    The gun stats are incomplete. The tier X e.g. has two guns: A 130mm (pen: 250/280/65, alpha: 560/560/640) and a 120mm (pen: 264/325/65, alpha: 400/400/515).




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  5. Anonymous says:

    Yeah boi




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  6. That’s cool but why they don’t have make the AMX 50 TCB (Real real project)




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  7. Kelso says:

    Reload times seem kind of long.




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  8. Anonymous says:

    Yet more fantasy tanks? Sigh…..




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  9. Pedalpowered says:

    The tier 8 looks good, the others are going to be frustrating, that tier 10 has light tank pen and gold ammo. the alpha/aim time/accuracy are all good but fighting superheavies is going to be difficult.

    Tier VIII: +107 gold pen (holy smokes!)
    Penetration: 218/325/65mm

    Tier IX: +16mm gold pen (worst gold in the game)
    Penetration: 242/258/64mm

    TIer X: +30mm gold pen (worst for a tier 10 heavy (HE does not count))
    Penetration: 250/280/65mm




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    • Havoc199 says:

      Bear in mind that the tier 10 with 130mm gun has AP as gold ammo. With 5 degrees of normalisation it is much better than most 330 HEAT in most normal situations especially against Russian and other sloped tanks.
      Like you say though it could struggle against the Maus and Type 5 but that’s pretty much it.




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      • Anonymous says:

        The penetration of 130mm gun (250 AP/280 AP)is almost the same stats as that of Type 5’s 140 mm gun(249 AP/282 AP). While everyone was complaining the poor 282mm pen of Type 5 before it had 152 mm gun, obviously French HT’s 280mm pen is extremely low. Although AP has 5 degree normalization, remember HEAT won’t ricochet until 85 degree while AP is 70 degree. This makes a huge difference when shooting well-sloped but thin armor(e.g, the top of Centurion AX’s turret)




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    • Something had to be worse than a soviet tank, the t100LT only gains 18mm of pen with premium and we cant have a soviet tank be the worst at something in the game now can we?




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  10. Anonymous says:

    what the fuck… shit I was expecting the char 50tb to be the tier 10… ah well this tier 10 looks pretty as well. I just hope the char 50tb will be added at some point as well…




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  11. blackswordsman says:

    what happened to the char 50t b??? I thought that was going to be made since it already existed long ago in wot but never made it in to the game…




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  12. Joe Duggn says:

    It seems to be the new way to have the Tier IX and Tier X tanks as much as possible as the same thing. Japan Heavy, This line, French SPG, British Heavys and so forth. I don’t like that.




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  13. Anonymous says:

    So the tier 10 has a 130mm that does 560 damange like the German 128mm, but the is7 still only does 490 at 130mm… WG logic is gonna give me an stroke or something worse.




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    • Justin says:

      the caliber of the shell does not determine the weight of power of the shell etc. So the damage inflicted can very between guns of the same caliber or similar calibers.




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      • While you are technically correct, I dont think thats a common occurence. Why create a larger shell, but put less explosives in?
        Most important thing is muzzle velocity and penetration capabilities, a tank that gets penned is quite often a dead tank, so really the alpha is a balance number, but I do agree that they should keep alpha roughly the same for the same caliber.




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      • I meant to say a tank that gets penned IRL




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      • pecae says:

        Not soo much. Maby in long range in shot range not




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      • DickherMax says:

        This tank has 300mm of armor on turrent with no weakspots. -8 degrees on gun. 560 alpha instead of 490. Gun handling seems to be way better (0.32 vs 0.38 / 2.1s vs 2.8s). Only pen is the same, 20mm less on gold but this one will have APs as gold most likely with better normalization, IS-7 has APCR).
        Plus, it seems like this one will get 120mm too, as an alternative. IS-7 has no choice.
        Only 1s longer reload seems worse, but I would gladly give 1s reload for -8 degrees.




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  14. Anonymous says:

    And Tiger II has 185mm front turret armour.




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  15. Those Premium Ammo penetration values of T9 and T10 are a bit odd….




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  16. Zonda says:

    it’s finally here! the heavily armoured french tanks that is are not really french anymore!




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  17. Mario Scalas says:

    So I’ll have to grind again that awful french “heavy” Tier VII, the infamous AMX M4 45? OMG, It’s even worse that the Tiger P!




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    • WhiteBaron777 says:

      You’re joking, right? The tiger P is worse in almost every category, except in armor which doesn’t matter since it’s frontal weakspots are bigger than the strong spots




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    • peter smith says:

      Tiger P awesome tank, +800 games +60% wins, you just need a rammer, bia and keep out of the open… About the French, surely they could have made the line from T6 up?




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    • Nocomment says:

      Got my highest XP ever game in that tank.




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  18. Snow says:

    The new tier 10 French heavy is already better then the PZ7




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  19. heldermartins1 says:

    A french tank with 300 armor turret?? Shut the front door!!!




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  20. Anonymous says:

    So what about the tiger2




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  21. RAD FROOD 25 (Console) says:

    https://thedailybounce.net/2017/09/15/new-french-heavy-tanks-what-are-they/ not sure but this seems to confirm it…, Sorry if I’m not allowed to put other blogs on here as links




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  22. Anonymous says:

    I was looking forward to them starting the line at a lower Tier – I wanted to see the Char2C .




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  23. nrnstraswa says:

    Excellent, infp on the AMX 65t at last. Still a shame that tiers 2-7 aren’t happening.
    Premium Char 2C and/or FCM F1 please.




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  24. Anonymous says:

    Hmm, just a suggestion, but I think it would be better if we swap places between the premium AMX M4 49 and AMX 65t, the line would look way better.
    – AMX M4 49 -> from premium to normal tier 8 tank
    – AMX 65t -> from normal to premium tier 8 tank

    And the line would be AMX M4 from tier 7 to 10




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    • kwixis says:

      Maybe they’ll make it possible to research the 50 120 from the 65t since the chassis is the same. it’s a logical knot for the the tech tree, but logic =/= Wargaming…




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  25. RAD FROOD 25 (Console) says:

    I want French Super Heavy Multi Turret Tanks Goddamnit




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  26. Adinias says:

    Wow.
    Not to sound salty or anything, but it feels like it’s been forever since ACTUAL tanks had been added. As in, non-premium tanks.

    I know the game (arguably) isn’t suppposed to be pay to win. But I do definately see WG trying to make premiums more and more attractive. I even see more and more premiums being added. Personally, I’ve always been a Casual WoT player. I may have spent a little over 50 euro’s total on premium content, but that was because I found it worth it those times.

    There should be a balance between the amount of regulars and premiums they add, not just add a lot of regular tanks with no premiums, but also not a lot of premiums only.

    A good balance would be adding a tank tree and then finding one tank that doesn’t quite fit in, but which is an awesome concept nonetheless. Then add that one tank as a premium alongside that entire tank tree.

    But of course, I know that isn’t gonna happen. It just would’ve been awesome.




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  27. Anonymous says:

    Yes our game is so broken it feels like early alpha but what it actually needs is more lines and premiums.




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  28. Pppp says:

    And wee need sssr super havy slow and armor not fast hevy….




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  29. volcanares says:

    I am definitely looking forward to french heavy tanks and I am pleased they will add those 3 tanks. However I really want a branch of french super heavy tanks even if it stops at tier 6 or 7. There are plenty of them, FCM F1, FCM F1 first project (1939), FCM 2C, 2C bis, 2C ter, FCM F4, FCM 1A, AMX tracteur C 1939 and 1940, ARL char C 1939 and 1940, FCM BB, STCC arrêt … (all of those have enough information to be modelled, but there is even more obscure designs like SEAM 220t).




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  30. Gal_Ardent says:

    Looks good to me, whaever the stat. As soon as you master forces and weaknesses; you are the king of the battlfield.




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  31. Kingstoler says:

    This is what the game needs. People will always find something to complain about but tanks that aren’t completely broken? Give me. 250/280 pen is plenty imo. It’s a little bit weird why the 130mm gun does 560 while the 130mm gun on the IS-7 does 490, (not that the IS-7 needs any more buffing) but weird to see this kind of thing.




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  32. Carlos says:

    again the injustice against the 130mm U.R.S.S, (560 vs 490) …




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  33. General Soren says:

    What I think is that they should add somua sm as tier 7 after arl before the amx 50 100 it is a much better fit and at tier six after the Renault g1 they should add the lorraine g1 (it already has an icon) and it should lead into the amx m4 45 wich should lead into the amx 65 t
    Sort of like this:
    V VI VII VIII
    Bdr g1– arl 44– somua sm — amx 50 100
    R g1 —- L g1 — amx m4 45–amx 65t




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  34. Matsuri Kudo says:

    This will make 4 AMX M4 series tanks;the 45,49,51,54 i find it a bit funny how the 65t is a bit of an oddball in the lineup,it makes me wonder if they will make a reroute of the branch from
    AMX M4 45 to spilt to both the 65t and
    AMX 50 100 and perhaps have a down branch from thr 65t to the 50 100 for slightly less exp,sort of like the end of the russian medium tank lines




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