World of Tanks Dev & Blogger Q&A Stream

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Wargaming have transcribed this stream for blogs. Some of this we have already covered nevertheless here we go.

Key Notes from Big Stream with Devs & Bloggers

WoT Classic:

We wanted to give players a taste of this “classic” game for quite a while.

The client is beyond old (~9 years), it’s not optimized and doesn’t support modern technology. Not surprisingly, it went down some 30 minutes after we launched an event. Team spent an entire day reanimating it. We added extra server capacity and it should be all good now. Everyone should be able to enjoy the “classic” tanks: being one shot from arty, burning tanks, etc.

We’re excited to hear your thoughts on Classic. We didn’t launch it purely as a fun April Fool’s Day prank. It’s an experiment and a testing ground for us to check several ideas (e.g., limiting amount of Gold) and we want to hear what you like and don’t like to decide on our next steps here.

What’s next for artillery? During the previous stream, you told that should changes prove inefficient you would reverse arty to its previous stage. It’s believed to fail in fulfilling the role you designed for it and became even more toxic and damaging because of stun mechanics.

We aren’t going to remove stun mechanics altogether. It would lower its damage per battle, while also increasing damage per shot. Having it with stun in-game keeps players from grouping into packs and being inactive. It forces them to spread, change positions. Essentially, it makes the overall experience livelier due to its psychologically discouraging effect, stun and damage. That’s how it fulfils its design purpose. It needs to be toxic, the question is “how toxic is too toxic.” That’s what we’re working on atm.
Instead of removing stun, we’re work on improving it. The 3-step stun revision plan has been revealed already and will soon get tested: https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/SPG-rebalance/ .
The first step is lowering the effect of stun on vehicles that are already stunned: any further stun for them is going to be reduced by ½. Simultaneously, we plan to change minimum stun duration and the distribution of damage from the splash depending on the distance from the tank to the centre of the explosion.  Should this first step work, we’ll proceed to the second one and then there’s the third and most drastic step that involves returning AP shells. The latter however will work differently than regular AP. The plan is to give players choice between damage that’s lower, covers a larger area and has splash effect enabling damaging several targets or an AP damage that is likely to send an enemy back in the Garage, but also has higher risks of missing the target.
Timeline for revision: Step 1 is coming to an end atm. If all goes well, we’ll delay steps 2 and 3 until further changes are necessary for the balance of artillery.
The only issue that’s particularly toxic about stun is the ability to continuously stun an opponent and thus make them useless for their team for an entire battle. That’s what we plan to fix with the upcoming revision.
When we introduced stun, we lowered the single-shell damage for arty. The thing is that now stun stops a vehicle thus increasing a chance to get another stun, which in turn leads to artillery inflicting the same amount of damage per battle as before the introduction of stun. The difference being the inability to one shot a vehicle. This total damage per battle needs to be lowered for arty. The inability to keep an opponent continuously stunned should help with this.

Will you revise personal battle missions simultaneously with arty rebalance?
It’s impossible to do those two things simultaneously. First, we need to collect stats on rebalanced artillery for at least four weeks of stats and a further week of analysis and then some additional time to change mission conditions (not much here). So, the overall turnaround is one update in the positive scenario and two in negative.

Will you reduce the number of arties per battle?
No, we won’t reduce the number of SPGs per battle. Statistically, 10% battles are played without arty at all, around 30% have one SPG, another 30% with two SPGs, and another 30%– with three SPGs. Let’s say we limit SPGs to two per battle, then there will be zero battles with no arty, around 10% with one artillery and the rest with two artillery. It would be worse than what we have right now: an average of less than 2 artillery per battle.
We’re also looking closely at Ranked Battles and there are usually two artillery per battle there. The mode is slower and more fit for arty, so we’re fine with it. However, it led to changes in hit maps and battle “choreography.” If you look at how a Random and a Ranked battle unfolds on the very same maps, the difference is drastic.

Are plans to tackle team damage issues, both involving arty and in general?
We tried it disabling team damage in Frontline and now plan larger testing. If it works out, chances are high that team damage will be disabled for good in the 2nd half of 2019.

Gold shell and ammo prices. You promised to change a year ago, yet nothing happened.
Within around two months, we’ll test Gold shell rebalances in Sandbox. We’ll start with their technical parameters and then revise its pricing. If core gameplay with revised parameters satisfies players and us (i.e., +/-2 battles are comfortable), we’ll continue with pricing.

The ammo rebalance will lead to battle setup changes. How will you regulate it?
First, we need to see how they’ll change. That’s what we’ll do in Sandbox. The testing, as we see it now, will feature either across all tiers or IV-X. We liked the results from Supertest, which is why we’re proceeding with a bigger testing phase now.
However, from experience, Supertest results aren’t always representative. Testers don’t have time to digest changes. The very same people playing in very same conditions for a longer period of time often have different, sometimes completely opposite judgements on changes. So, let’s wait for bigger testing and get back to this topic after it.

What will you do with tanks who become insufficient when played without Gold shells?
When rebalance occurs, it’s likely to involve all shells, not just Gold ones, as well as armour, ammo group, and economics. It’s going to be a set of comprehensive changes. We’ll offer players a setup we have in mind on Sandbox or during an event, like Classic, and listen to the reaction to the change.

Maps Black list and returning old maps.
Black list is in the finishing development stage atm. With blacklisting, you’ll be able to choose one map that you don’t want to play on. This way you won’t get it. If you’re playing in Platoon and your Commander blacklisted a map, you won’t get it as well.

We see how positive players are about Frontline. It needs more new maps. That’s why we’re focused on adding new rather than reworking old. The only exception is Kharkov.
Bug fixing:

  • We’re reworking map collision models to fix the bug when a player can damage an enemy tank by literally shooting in the air.
  • “Jumpy aim” bug – when targeting a hill that has nothing behind it, your aim would go upwards or remain where it should be, yet a shell would go upwards. There is work towards fixing this.

Matchmaker
Map black list can’t happen with the current mm setup. So first we need to revise matchmaking, which is already happening (tests in EU and Asia). The global mm revision is scheduled for April 3rd. It’s going to be a seamless switch, no patches or extra downloads for players.
The revised matchmaker should improve experience for Premium tanks with preferential matchmaking and mid-tiers (VI and VII), provide for more even team setups, and more.

Mods & Anonymizer
The mod that allows players to see your nickname and stats – We have a concept for fixing it. One variant here is similar to the Fog of War on the Global Map. However, we need to study the aftermath of the case when all players choose to anonymize their name and stats. We’ll be working on it and release a certain version of the solution this year. We can’t confirm that it’s going to be final.
We aren’t planning to block XVM.
Commander’s Camera, collision model, force multiplier factor and deflection shift for sniper aim – are all in backlog. Small improvements require just as much time and effort as big ones, especially in terms of QA. Every improvement has several interdependencies and can have a domino effect. So, we need to make sure we aren’t breaking something bigger with a small fix to something else.
Prohibited mods: Ban waves will continue. Yes, we view them as an efficient method to reduce number of cheaters. We’re also considering a comprehensive program solution to make using mods technically impossible. For example, signing for mods, inability to install mods without an approval, closing battle interface. We’ll be testing these, whether publicly or in silent mode.
The current client architecture doesn’t allow to fully close it.

Voice chat in-game
We didn’t work on it in the last few years, because of two things: 1. A lot of third-party solutions came to be so there’s choice. 2, we have fully outsourced this service to a provider: Vivox.

eSports
The old eSports format simply didn’t work. World of Tanks gameplay isn’t fit for eSports, and it can only exist through huge investments that don’t pay off. We limited competitive to regional 3×3 and 7×7 tournaments and Clan Skirmishes. If we see that this regional tournament ecosystem is booming and creating the necessary foundation to re-establish a pro league, we’ll work on it.
When we started working on eSports, we chose to do it ourselves: organize events, manage contacts, etc. We simply didn’t know how to work with big eSports companies. Eventually, we started working with the likes of ESL and StarLadder. We watched performance for quite some time and realized that it’s not growing natively and would only exist through investment, providing niche entertainment.
We accepted that we chose the wrong way initially and made a difficult decision to close eSports division, re-channelling recourses and money into improving core gameplay.
We are looking into an option of solo eSports within player personal achievements. Here we worked with Rostelekom, launched Tank Aces, Blogger Battle. We see potential in such an approach and will continue working in this direction.
eSports broadcasts that don’t have paid traffic and marketing can’t compete with Random Battles streams from key streamers.
Tournament functionality remains and is being worked on together with key steamers. We received feedback in August. The technical task was prepared and handed over to developers. Currently in backlog, we haven’t started on it yet because there are higher priority improvements.

Wheeled vehicles in Random Battles & Frontline
We’re working to adjust Frontline to wheeled vehicles and swift Light Tanks. Changes will be rolled out to a separate cluster for testing. Should they work out, we’ll introduce them for all other clusters.
For Random Battles, there’s not enough stats for top-tier wheeled tanks yet. We’ll continue gathering them and watch closely how the battle duration and wheeled vehicles ratio in battles change. The SPG rebalances in 9.18 taught us to accurately measure response of difference audience segments (in-game behaviour and stats) and approach each change iteratively. Now we have a sound monitoring system that allows us to track how wheeled vehicles performs in-game and how they affect gameplay overall. Should there be an imbalance, we’ll step in to fix it.
Wheeled vehicles won’t get nerfed until we gather enough stats to prove it’s necessary. The charge mechanics will not be brought back.

Rebalances of Type 4 Heavy, the Type 5 Heavy, and the FV4005
Both Japanese heavies will have the stats of their top guns (14-cm and 15-cm) tweaked:

  • Rounds will increase in armor penetration (from 249 mm to 252 mm for the standard shell and from 282 mm to 290 mm for the special shell).
  • The damage of the 15-cm cannon basic HE round will decrease from 1,100 to 900 points, and the special round will change from HE to HESH.
  • Armor penetration will increase to 192 mm and damage will decrease from 1,400 to 750 points.
  • The top Japanese heavy will become more mobile, gaining 4 km/h in top forward speed, 3 km/h in top reverse speed, and 3 degrees in hull traverse rate.
  • Its specific power will grow, and gun dispersion on the move and while turning will decrease.

These stat adjustments are to lessen the HE damage share in the overall output of the top Japanese heavies, without revising these vehicles’ basic concept. The changes will make the 15-cm gun less efficient, especially against high-tier adversaries. At the same time, the alternate gun will fare better, in part because of the general changes to the parameters of the Tier X tank, and players will have a more substantial choice between the two playstyles

FV 4005:

  • The top forward speed will decrease (from 35 km/h to 32 km/h), and the top reverse will drop from 12 km/h to 8 km/h.
  • The same will happen to the engine power (down to 850 hp from 950 hp) and the hull traverse rate (down to 26 degrees from 30 degrees).
  • The gun itself will have less accuracy (with dispersion upped from 0.38 to 0.42) and will take longer to aim (3.7 seconds vs 3 seconds).

With these adjustments implemented, the FV 4005 will retain its key feature—HESH shells with high armour penetration allowing for colossal alpha—with the overall effectiveness of the vehicle decreasing only slightly. The FV 4005 will continue to be a mighty combatant able to take out an enemy with a single strike, yet it will need more time to prepare that shot.

Perks Rebalance

  • Rebalance of perks that grew outdated and/or never were really popular will involve either replacing them with other perks or changing how a perk works.
  • Granting six sense to all tank commanders by default
  • Ability to store and pass over Crew experience
  • Redesign of Crew UI
  • Most likely, removal of Barracks, if it proves possible

We’re leaning towards leaving just one Commander for a tank who’ll represent an entire crew. However, it’s just a concept as of now. Right now, we don’t have an answer how to rework and reimburse players who poured money and time into training Crew members.

Crew re-training

This was designed to avoid storing all data on player’s crews and tanks, which is pricy and won’t be in high demand.

High-level content. What to do when you finished the game? (researched and unlocked and upgraded every tank to top modifications)
Within two years, we’ll present something that would satisfy those who’ve “finished” the game.
At the same time, we’re working on evolving Clan Wars metagame (added Alliances). We have a “Game of Thrones”-ish idea for it that is in the works, too.
The reworked Ranked Battles will become a regular event mode:

  • A new system of ranks
  • Experience will be calculated differently (and if this new system for experience works it’ll make its way to Random Battles)
  • New rewards for most efficient players
  • More opportunities to spend bonds

Bonds
Following the next backend Shop update, players will be able to buy tanks with Bonds. There will be no sales for Bonds consumables. There are plans for alternative ways to earn Bonds.

What tanks are going to get nerfed? What buffed?
We need to test ammo rebalances first. All vehicle changes depend on this test.

Historical Battles; will they return?
Soon we’ll launch a historical event built around WWII. It’ll feature PvE.

“Challenges” – Chain mission events.
Current missions within “Challenge” events offer near perfect balance:

  • Highly skilled players succeed in missions and get a new premium tank for free
  • Average players make certain progress in missions and buy a premium at a lower price
  • Those who want to buy it, buy it right away at full price

Rapid-Fire Q&A

  • “Mastery meter” – There’ll be a visual “mastery meter” that a player could have on their vehicle. Not in 2019
  • Training Room for one person – No, as it adds just as much load on the server as a regular battle.
  • Testing a Premium tank before purchasing it – no such plans
  • Server replays – not in the nearest future, they’re in development but the progress is non-existent. Server-side issue: Every server update efficiently wipes all replays, and we need to figure out what to do with it. Client-side issue: To replay a past battle, vehicles and map geometry should be exactly the same as they were when the battle occurred, otherwise they’ll be odd bugs.
  • Mechanic to restore vehicles that get stuck or turn over – Not a massive issue; will return to it after resolving issue with friendly fire. We’ll consider making an indicator to inform teammates in the team list.
  • No voice chat in Random Battles
  • Why fun modes aren’t fun? – We were learning to make PvE. The two Halloween modes helped us with it. We didn’t intent to make it grindy, we are just making steps towards making solid PvE.
  • We’re working on Battle Royale mode.
  • 3D customization – It’s pricy and time-consuming, but we’ll continue to add new sets.
  • Rebalances for Tiers VI–VIII – Ammo rebalances first, then we proceed with these. The revised mm should improve experience for Tiers VI-VIII: they won’t be matched to the bottom of the list so often.
  • Battle of Bloggers – It’ll return again but in slightly different format
  • No changes to chat and friend lists in 2019
  • Will +/-25% get removed? – No.

 

25 comments on “World of Tanks Dev & Blogger Q&A Stream

  1. Bazil Grimstride says:

    Loved the limited gold ammo on classic the most.

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    • ambition says:

      I hope they see this as an alternative solution if their current plan for the revision won’t succeed.

    • KV-2 Driver says:

      Yes but how was it limited ? i hope it wasnt just a % change because that would be bad since some tanks cant carry much ammo and others can Just think how much Gold ammo a Maus could carry and compare it to a t-62 or something
      WE DONT want to balance tanks on the Amount of Gold ammo they can carry

      • Anonymous says:

        So we’ll over a year ago they promised to notify us about the is4 changes coming to tanks within 6 months. No a single peep about it. I’ve been WoT free for 7 months and I gotta say I’ve been much happier then when I played the game. They refuse to fix anything that’s broken, they leave old tanks to face the new monsters they create which in the end causes them not to be played, and they only ever listen to either their whiny Russian player or the ignorant European players who seem to think that a F2P game doesn’t need revenue to continue operating and a $60 premium tank should be worse then the free one b/c somehow it’s justified in their book. I’m gonna stick to destiny and satisfactory b/c there’s too many tasks to complete on 3rd shift.

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    • Mikosah says:

      The reason the game worked with relatively low use of gold was because the standard shells could actually pen reliably. Armor wasn’t exaggerated, there was only one ‘superheavy’, and weakspots were plenty. The way to fix the new meta first depends on balancing armor around standard shells, providing weakspots for the standard shells, and only after the fact toying with tweaks to the gold shells themselves.

  2. Anonymous says:

    Nice post, thanks for posting it.
    What about “ old map returning”? The Developers skipped it.

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  3. Vinh says:

    Sixth sense as default skill ? Hell yeah

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  4. ambition says:

    Mixed feelings whilst reading this, as expected.
    Looking forward to the new mm though.

  5. -rash- says:

    WG strategy,
    if it is not a problem, change it (crew)
    If it is a problem, make it worse (arty)
    Almost anything those stupidos change, they make it worse.

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    • ambition says:

      It appears that consumers tend to think that the devs are their slaves.

      Maybe it’s just me, but even if it takes 10 years to make a good product in the end, I shan’t complain. (i.e. delayed satisfaction)

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  6. United_Stealth says:

    I love the limited gold ammo. Recently I started using gold on main server. Since it’s just so ff-in frustrating to be losing because you try to play the game normally. And my recent winrate went up a couple percent and normal average has never been this high. Fcking stupid.
    I hope they bring gold use down and bring back skill.

  7. RAD FROOD 25 (Console) says:

    Will somebody ask the world of tanks pc devs what they think of console? It will be fun to see an in depth answer if sorts

  8. bsutak says:

    “Are plans to tackle team damage issues, both involving arty and in general?
    We tried it disabling team damage in Frontline and now plan larger testing. If it works out, chances are high that team damage will be disabled for good in the 2nd half of 2019.”
    You need to test whether team damage should be removed or not??

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  9. Berto72 says:

    and for (a lot of) people that pay montly for cheatpack outer game directory?LOL, no real fight to cheats….

  10. Seth H says:

    “Following the next backend Shop update, players will be able to buy tanks with Bonds. There will be no sales for Bonds consumables. There are plans for alternative ways to earn Bonds.”

    I can’t wait, I hope that they offer the T-22 Med.

    “We aren’t planning to block XVM.”

    Good, that way we can still keep track of how badly the teams are being stacked with new and struggling players

  11. knitte says:

    can’t limit arties to less than 3 > bullsh*t, WG just needs some programmers who doesn’t suck
    no more team damage > stupid as the game loses some more of the tiny bit realism left
    sixth sense for everyone for free > why???
    25% rng not being reduced > stupid as it negotiates player skills

    • KV-2 Driver says:

      Sixth Sense for everyone is good because Sixth Sense is basicly the best skill Ingame
      It frees up the first skill selection if you want a full crew of Camo or Repair its now possible

      Even if you unlock every vehicle you dont have a crew for each for example i wanted to drive the Ferdinand again but i have no crew left however i need a good crew to be effective Ferdinand Commander needs 4 skills Camo Repair BiA Sixtsense Howevery every normal Crewmember only needs 3 Skills Camo Repair Bia
      With Free Sixth Sense i dont need a Female Crewmember as commander to have every skill i need as soon as every other member gets his 3rd Skill

      With Free Sixth Sense its much Quicker to get a Good Crew For any New Tank nothing is worse than Crew Training

  12. Anonymous says:

    Wow… When is the development team at WoTs going to listen to their community, or keep their word when they say they are going to do something?

    1.) One of the first tank “balances” (ie a buff) was suppose to happen on the IS4, which is long over due, and there is NO mention of it.

    2.) How many times has the community and YouTube contributors asked for the developers to bring back the old maps, and it just falls on deaf ears?

    3.) Why do we have to have up to 25% RNG in the game? Why cant we reduce it so the game is more about skill and less about helping new players and unicums?

    4.) Wheeled vehicles has changed the game meta for the worse. Who wanted them? Is this game called World of Wheeled Vehicles or World of Tanks?

    5.) With the wheeled lites, now we have too many lite tanks in battles. 5-6 lites on each team is too many! Lite tanks need to be limited like arty.

    But of course I know the developers are NOT listening.

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  13. Anonymous says:

    Esports are dead because of their greed and stupidity. They just have to offer good rewards for the players, which are not virtual and plenty of giveaways for the fans/viewers so they keep on watching. But no, let’s give the pro players gold and the viewers useless stuff from the shop that no one wants to buy anyway. And then act like surprised Pikachu when some streamer has more viewers at the same time.

    “eSports broadcasts that don’t have paid traffic and marketing can’t compete with Random Battles streams from key streamers.” They see there is something wrong, but are too narrow-minded to actually find the obvious and easy solution.

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    • bbmoose says:

      Esports are dead because of 25% RNG. It’s like gambling on that level of gameplay.

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      • Mikosah says:

        The RNG is one reason, but not the only one. Another is that the major plays just aren’t that spectator-friendly, they’re usually just a matter of movement or positioning. “He pressed W! The crowd goes wild!”

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    • Anonymous says:

      What surprised Pikachu looking like?Am just curious

  14. retardedrussians says:

    These fucking dolts could fuck up walking through an open doorway despite having instructions, map, proper lights, guide rails, safety gear and someone carrying them through…..

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  15. wolvenworks says:

    i thought they said that they will NOT do battle royale mode? it’s still a stupid idea anyway

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