Hello,
just a small update, today, 25 of April, is the 42th anniversary of the Carnation Revolution in Portugal.
It’s a national holiday for my people. Also the reason why my grandfather came back from the war sooner and what my Great-grand father died for, like many others who were hunted down or tortured by the PIDE (International and State Defence Police).
So please excuse as I took the day to contact my family as this means more than just a national holiday for us. Later on will be watching “April Captains” movie:
Note: Reason why most of the Carnation Revolution videos have the same song “Grândola, Vila Morena” it’s because it was the song chosen as a green light code, that the Revolution was about to take place as back in the day we didn’t have internet or proper fast ways of communication (most of the country was unaware of what was happening in Lisbon until everything was over). The lyrics are about the common people being the rulers and all equal, writing or singing something like this was highly forbidden, PIDE would censor everything and jail us. The singer and writer of the song, Zeca Afonso, he did a lot of intervention music. Also the reason why Grandola, Vila Morena is so slow-paced is because that’s how we speak (dialect) and traditional sing in this area of Portugal.
I still however been working on some articles for the blog but they are extensive and need their time, expect them tomorrow.
Hope you understand.
I am not sure what to say about the situation you describe and I don’t mean to be rude, but the story itself seems incredibly interesting, I have never heard of this before.
Not seen as rude at all… Carnation Revolution is the day that Portugal broke from dictatorship.
I looked it up, I’d say that’s a significant day in any country’s book.
Braking the chains of ignorance, suffering and oppression is always a difficult process but you always come out better…
Same thing here in Italy !
Now have Jingles identify all those vehicles 😛
Rita, I’m also portuguese and while 25 de Abril is a very important holiday it also heavily overstated and overglorified. PIDE was to control comunism first of all (eventually extending its political targets later on, true). At the time however, all countries in the west feared the comunist spread from the East after its success in Russia. Most countries in Europe other also had this kind of censorship at the time.
Ya out went the dictatorship but in came comunism. It was an important date but people sometimes forget what came after. My uncle also returned from the war in Angola but my great-grand-father died protecting his land property in Alentejo because the comunist mob came over shooting to take it from him as to all other land owners around. Business oweners fled to brasil to protect their life’s work from the comunist party. The poperty was eventually returned after the comunist party fell but in really bad shape.
25 de Abril marks the end of Dictatorship!! The reason why it’s celebrated!! However, 25 de Abril also marks the begginig of something else… something that people forget. There is a reason why the political party that makes the biggest deal out of this holiday is the comunist party PCP (Partido Comunista Português).
Before you say it, I know its Wikipedia, but it does have some pertinent info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnation_Revolution
what’s most amazing is that the revolutionary forces didn’t kill a single person, on the other hand the government supporters opened fire on the crowd watching the whole thing killing some and injured others, only then the revolutionary forces opened fire to protect the Portuguese citizens present there
it’s called “Revolução dos Cravos” (Carnation Revolution) because, like I mentioned before, the revolutionary forces didn’t open fire unless necessary and because of that people started distributing carnations to the soldiers and civilians and that’s why you often see photos of soldiers with carnations inside the barrels of their rifles
forgot to mention the photo of the soldier in front of a APC (second from the top in the middle row), while not the mastermind of the revolution he was the one taking charge of all of it and is seen by us, the Portuguese, as the major figure behind the revolution
he was caled Salgueiro Maia and unfortunately he has already passed away, still after the government accepted to surrender one general, General António de Sepínola, took advantage of all being solved to take credit and eventually became President but only for a few months
Hey no worries Rita. You take the day off. I honestly hadn’t heard about this before now but after a quick google search and a wiki trawl i can totally understand why this would be so important to you and so many portuguese. :).
This is really interesting. I’d love to hear more about it. Cheers.
So Rita, you asking for Portoguese Tanks next?
(… now that they put in the ones you asked bevor)
Portuguese tanks are a mix of American, French and German models.
Pretty much yes, we also had British Tanks.
maybe premium with Portuguese emblems, after the war we used Cromwells, M47, M48 and M60 Pattons, the wheeled tank destroyer you see with a oscillating turret is a french Panhard vehicle, we have plenty of those scattered through our military bases either on display or just laying around
This article reminded me of my grandpa who tole me that his parents escaped from the Spanish Civil War from Spain to Central America as a baby. Thanks for posting this.
Interestingly enough… one of my ancestors was a Spanish man who fled from the Spanish Civil war he found refuge in Portugal, people hid him from the PT police who would take him back to Spain in a heart beat.
Shame to see so many people be so bureaucratic, which puts people in harm’s way in some circumstances.
that’s one weird looking tank
happy holiday btw 🙂
Ummm. Yesterday was the 100th anniversary of the Easter Rebellion in Ireland. No mention of that?
Rita Is Portuguese. Why would she prioritize an Irish holiday?
more like, how would she know about it?
the only way would be Jingles telling her because he is british and should have at least heard something about it, doesn’t seem like that happened
Manuel – not suggesting Rita should prioritize an Irish holiday. But if we are marking the anniversaries of revolutions, the 100 year anniversary of the revolution that led to the formation of the Irish state against the British Empire should at least bear some mention along with the 42 anniversary of a civil war in Portugal.
The_Chieftain gave notice of it to me, wasn’t aware. I’m not Irish nor do I have connections with someone from Ireland hence why I didn’t mentioned. I rarely pay attention to dates/celebrations at a very few exceptions, Carnation Revolution is one of them.
Maybe you should start a blog.
Well, “Happy Revolution Day”, if there is such a thing. It certainly seems a worthy occasion to celebrate.
in this case you can say it because it was a rather pacific revolution, if a lot of people had been killed during that day it would be a day to honor them but since it was a rather pacific day we mostly celebrate the end of the dictatorship
La revolución de los claveles? Ánimo compañera 🙂 Hace 12 días fue el día de la república en España (no se celebra porque tenemos monarquía otra vez jajaj)
My respects to you, your family and friends, and your nation Rita. Enjoy yourself!
The 25th of April is ANZAC Day commemorating New Zealand and Australian Troupes and their sacrifice.
No quite about post war spain nothing of Portugal will have to look into it You might like this https://01varvara.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/little-sister/marat-samsonov-little-sister/
Any right wing dictatorship must be destroyed by all means, Portugal had terrible times under Right Wing Capitalist dictatorship, South Korea still is a degenerated shit-hole hiding their crimes against humanity.
Glad the Portuguese people took matters into their own hands just a shame they are regressing into right wing Capitalism once more and their economy is in shamble.
Even the Russian people are have voiced with a overwhelming majority, they want the Soviet Union back and for real this time. Viva o socialismo! Por uma vida melhor!
as if soviet union wasn’t a right wing dictatorship.
USSR a right wing dictatorship? I am sure you can prove it, but just be aware that I probably have more facts and evidence than you probably could find in a life time about your subjective claim.
Right. Because socialism has led to some of the lowest standards of living in every country where it is attempted.
Capitalism gave rise to the industries that gave you personal computers and the internet, and even the game you play. You hate capitalism so much? Unplug your machine.
Guessing you are a student, and certainly aren’t over 30. Because once you get a good taste of the real world (paying significant taxes to bolster those who aren’t working, have the fruits of YOUR labor “redistributed” to those who don’t work / don’t work as hard, etc.), your ideology for the false utopia of socialism will fade fast!
Socialism gave us Tetris xD
despite not supporting both, capitalism would not have the force that currently has, and it was intended to fall just as socialism, see guys, the fact is, and I’m being neutral to say that, these ideologies were created for the whole world, not just for some countries, socialism fell because only a few countries were trying to apply an ideology made to the whole world, since the idea was to share all the wealth equally among all, one impossible thing to do with the riches of very few countries, if we had capitalism in the same place as the socialism was, it would fall too, since how would you trade riches with yourself? or a few countries? and if these countrys had not ore or raw materials, they would not be able to trade with socialism contrys, and since they would lack a lot of things to survive, these contrys would not survive in capitalism, soo you can not judge what ideology is better since they both were made for a global approach, It is like saying that a team of 10 people is better than one alone because the person alone is socialist, that don’t make sense at all….. but once again I do not support any, I’m just saying to you guys think better before judging
+VIKTORWULF
If Socialism had such low life standards then surely this must be false?
https://www.rt.com/politics/340158-most-russians-regret-ussr-has/
Except its not, majorities and even close to 50% in post-Socialist countries want the Socialist era back, look at East Germans, they miss the Socialist time and a striking majority agrees time were better back then.
You are also talking out of your arse because
http://i.imgur.com/xXS4jN0.jpg yeah, guess what. +70% wanted to keep the Union not abolish it, so you are actually wrong on astronomical levels.
Actually the Soviet Union have a lot to say about the evolution of computers, you as ignorant as you are apparently do not know who DESIGNED the Pentium processor, none other than Vladimir Pentkovski who worked on the famous Elbrus super processors.
Intel uses Soviet computer technology.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/06/07/intel_uses_russia_military_technologies/
Apparently one has to be a certain age to gain knowledge, your pathetic way of thinking is why America is a fourth world shithole struggling with increasing levels of violent crimes, increase in unemployment and increase in corruption, because people like you are so backward in their thinking its almost scary.
Children like you claim DPRK the pinnacle of modern Socialism is such a bad and evil country, not ONCE have anyone of you proven your pathetic claims with evidence and facts, satellite images are not evidence of anything other than the fact there exists buildings in the fucking country, good job *clap clap*
Meanwhile evidence of the crimes of RoK (South Korea) is appearing one after another, I wont even have to lift a finger because it just falls into my hands everyday.
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2013/07/28/who-really-started-the-korean-war/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3545761/Hell-Hell-Child-prisoners-raped-daily-years-tortured-confessing-petty-crimes-did-not-commit-South-Korean-prison.html
Just face it war crime apologist, Capitalist dictatorship is the worst cancer to have ever befallen upon mankind, Adolf Hitler ran a Capitalist dictatorship, Mussolini merged Corporations with the state which is Fascism.
Reagen did the same thing as Mussolini did so did Thatcher, they practised Fascism after the end of WW2.
Do I even have to tell you the pretty story of Chile under unrestricted Capitalism?
Yes these countries saw huge economical boost, but at what cost? The wage gap increased by 300%, hundreds of thousand died as a result and you sit there in your pathetic chair probably made by slave labour from India and praise Capitalism. The system had its uses, but its uses are now over its time to evolve from a barbaric slave system to a more humane one which actually have human rights after all, Soviet Union was among the extremely few who actually punished its own soldiers for crimes like rape, murder and plundering of civilians during the war.
I am pretty sure you cannot boast so much about that for German, American or even British soldiers now can you?
Dumping chemicals into the river sure is pretty, that could give you a 25 years sentence in a Gulag in USSR, but in America that can give you a wage increase. Nice standard of moral!
I’m a former Wall Street consultant who has become a socialist after seeing how capitalism works.
+SMGJOHN
In no particular order:
Of course many in the former USSR (and Eastern Block countries) want the return of socialism. Just like the 47% of US citizens who pay no taxes wish will not vote for much needed austerity programs here. Or the the PIGS (Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain) who benefitted for decades of overly generous social programs, who cry now that they take much needed austerity programs. Why? Because the lazy (which is the majority of people in most societies) will always prefer “free” goods and services, rather than to work for them themselves. As Thatcher said properly: “The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”
Concerning your claims about Russian involvement in a capitalist country’s development of modern computers: Your article talks about a former SUPERcomputer developer. You forget that the US had the first supercomputer. This fellow may have come to the west to help in the design of DESKTOP microchips. But he is one of dozens. Of course, he did add some of his expertise into the design. But the one man most credited with the Pentium architecture is Vinod Dahm. http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/when-speed-was-king-vinod-dham-and-the-birth-of-the-pentium/ Born and educated in India. Moved to the US, where he joined Teledyne Semi, and later Intel.
To the “war crime apologist” claim, it’s amazing how you are being very selective with your recent history. The socialists Khmer Rouge kililed an estimated 1.7 million people (some estimates as high as 8 million). Mao Zedong is blamed for up to 60 million deaths during his many programs. He famously claimed: “one-tenth of the peasants (50 milliion) would have to be destroyed” https://books.google.com/books?id=T2L9SH6V9aEC&pg=PA344&lpg=PA344&dq=mao+one+tenth+of+the+peasants+would+have+to+be+destroyed&source=bl&ots=FkHtk7LRrZ&sig=_GwDjBjDYFPFUqI2lXoz8S-dWyM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinj-utp6_MAhXKdj4KHS32D4YQ6AEIQTAH#v=onepage&q=mao%20one%20tenth%20of%20the%20peasants%20would%20have%20to%20be%20destroyed&f=false Of course, Stalin is responsible for between 1.8m and 7.5m murders in his intentional, created, famine in the Ukraine. (see the Holodomor Genocide) And another 20m people sent to the gulags during his Purges. http://russiapedia.rt.com/of-russian-origin/stalins-purges/
I can go on with more examples like Idi Amin (socialist and anti-capitalist) in Uganda killed almost 500,000 per Amnesty International. And Rawanda. And so many other atrocities committed by left-leaning leaders and governments.
To your point on pollution, you seem to conveniently forget: Communist China http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2007/jun/19/china.usnews and the former USSR: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/armine-sahakyan/the-grim-pollution-pictur_b_9266764.html
Pollution is an endemic problem associated with socialism. See: https://fee.org/articles/why-socialism-causes-pollution/
Finally, to your defense of my claims your young age may be responsible for your overzealous and blind love for socialism: Age MAY bring wisdom. But it is seldom found in the young. Given that you think America is a “fourth world shithole,” I guess I’m right.
Grow up child, LEARN and see the world. and THEN talk to adults about adult things.
To your other points (no reply available directly to your comments), and in no particular order:
Of course many in the former USSR (and Eastern Block countries) want the return of socialism. Just like the 47% of US citizens who pay no taxes wish will not vote for much needed austerity programs here. Or the the PIGS (Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain) who benefitted for decades of overly generous social programs, who cry now that they take much needed austerity programs. Why? Because the lazy (which is the majority of people in most societies) will always prefer “free” goods and services, rather than to work for them themselves. As Thatcher said properly: “The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”
Concerning your claims about Russian involvement in a capitalist country’s development of modern computers: Your article talks about a former SUPERcomputer developer. You forget that the US had the first supercomputer. This fellow may have come to the west to help in the design of DESKTOP microchips. But he is one of dozens. Of course, he did add some of his expertise into the design. But the one man most credited with the Pentium architecture is Vinod Dahm. http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/when-speed-was-king-vinod-dham-and-the-birth-of-the-pentium/ Born and educated in India. Moved to the US, where he joined Teledyne Semi, and later Intel.
To the “war crime apologist” claim, it’s amazing how you are being very selective with your recent history. The socialists Khmer Rouge kililed an estimated 1.7 million people (some estimates as high as 8 million). Mao Zedong is blamed for up to 60 million deaths during his many programs. He famously claimed: “one-tenth of the peasants (50 milliion) would have to be destroyed” https://books.google.com/books?id=T2L9SH6V9aEC&pg=PA344&lpg=PA344&dq=mao+one+tenth+of+the+peasants+would+have+to+be+destroyed&source=bl&ots=FkHtk7LRrZ&sig=_GwDjBjDYFPFUqI2lXoz8S-dWyM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinj-utp6_MAhXKdj4KHS32D4YQ6AEIQTAH#v=onepage&q=mao%20one%20tenth%20of%20the%20peasants%20would%20have%20to%20be%20destroyed&f=false Of course, Stalin is responsible for between 1.8m and 7.5m murders in his intentional, created, famine in the Ukraine. (see the Holodomor Genocide) And another 20m people sent to the gulags during his Purges. http://russiapedia.rt.com/of-russian-origin/stalins-purges/
I can go on with more examples like Idi Amin (socialist and anti-capitalist) in Uganda killed almost 500,000 per Amnesty International. And Rawanda. And so many other atrocities committed by left-leaning leaders and governments.
To your point on pollution, you seem to conveniently forget: Communist China http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2007/jun/19/china.usnews and the former USSR: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/armine-sahakyan/the-grim-pollution-pictur_b_9266764.html
Pollution is an endemic problem associated with socialism. See: https://fee.org/articles/why-socialism-causes-pollution/
Finally, to your defense of my claims your young age may be responsible for your overzealous and blind love for socialism: Age MAY bring wisdom. But it is seldom found in the young. Given that you think America is a “fourth world shithole,” I guess I’m right.
Grow up child, LEARN and see the world. and THEN talk to adults about adult things.
+VIKTORWULF
Stop double posting, Christ people these days..
Why the fuck are you crying about first world problems? I honestly could care less about the first world. Also Thatcher was a psychopath who ran Britain to the ground, majority of Brits hate her.
Socialism is not profit driven so you are hilariously fatally mistaken already.
At least educate yourself on the matter I mean, Christ.
I was actually mistaken when I said Pentkovski invented Pentium, he designed huge portions of the architecture of it, leading a team and working on a design is different though something your man did.
Khmer Rogue Socialists? I am going to have to ask for proof that they were Socialists because they where opportunists you are actually claiming something now, its not an historical fact.
Hilariously enough, both your links you posted I checked and it turns out the ONLY source they had to these supposed ‘mass-killings’ that took place n a fairy tale leads to one particular book called “Black Book of Communism” I wonder, I heard that name before. Oh wait its that book that is being criticised by even the right wing as being inaccurate.
I am not going to post all the links to it here so I will just post it to the blog that has all the links already debunking the entire book.
https://maoistrebelnews.com/2011/08/10/the-black-book-of-communism-debunked/
http://www.prisoncensorship.info/archive/etext/agitation/blackbook/index.html
Population growth of USSR and its incomprehensible relations with the deaths Stalin supposedly killed:
http://www.stalinsociety.org/2015/04/24/stalins-millions/
https://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/government/1946/population.pdf
Also the Holodomor, so you claim Stalin commanded the weather with his pinky finger and caused a drought on purpose? Aright, that explains your mentality a lot because that is what you are claiming unless you fucking think he ordered soldiers to randomly shoot people with a magic bullet that left no marks.
Idi Amin did not abolish the market so calling him a Socialist is like saying Hitler was a Jewish welfare minister who only did good.
Calling China Communist in 2016, please at least get educated Imao you apparently have fucking no idea what either Socialism, Communism or Capitalism is.
Here this is a chart made so easy even a child could understand it, to give you a better understanding:
http://www.bonjourcommuniste.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Capitalism-Socialism-Commun.jpg
Your comment about the environmental pollutions is just LOL. Funny how that article had nothing to point towards like a historical document or something, suspicious.
http://www.exposingtruth.com/new-un-report-finds-almost-no-industry-profitable-if-environmental-costs-were-included/#ixzz4620WNpXt
Meanwhile, UN posted something FAR more interesting, “Capitalism will KILL us all”
Good stuff, this is what we need, more FACTS and SCIENCE to prove how shit Capitalism is.
We already got science to prove us how tiny brains Right Wingers have but never about how shit the system is.
I think the only real child here is you, at least I do not claim I know it all, I learn everyday you seem to be stagnating like America.
At least I know what Capitalism, Socialism and Communism is you apparently do not seeing how you claim its profit driven and that China is ‘Communist’ I hope for your own good you know that Communism is a stateless utopian idea were money is abolished and people work for the better good. Last fucking time I checked China still had a government and monitarian system in place.
+ SMGJOHN
It is clearly useless trying to have a conversation with you. I offer links to reputable sources. You provide links to amateurish, zealous ideological sites. I refute you with facts. You come back to me with rhetoric.
One easy example: In your graphic, the FIRST line states “Capitalism is essentially wasteful: commodities are produced because they can be sold. . . . “ Wrong. That the products can be sold means there is demand for the product. Therefore, Capitalism is the COMPLETE opposite of wasteful. (Side note: To achieve the maximum profits, producers actively seek to minimize waste. Waste is unprofitable as it is 1) an end-byproduct that cannot be channeled back into some useful good and 2) requires additional capital to dispose of. Liberal ideologues seem to forget this basic truth in their rantings. )
It goes on: “ . . . not because they’re needed.” Who is to decide what is needed and what isn’t? I seem to recall many of the “5 year plans” the USSR attempted and comically misgauged the “need” for one item, over-producing one set of items (which became waste), while massively under-producing many other legitimately needed items. http://www.mruniversity.com/courses/economic-history-soviet-union/chaos-central-planning-resource-shortages-and-waste
Then your graphic goes on to decry the mechanism of industry. It complains that technology replaces manual labor. So I’m guessing your version of Utopia would have us in the Stone Age. Wait. What medium are you using to make this argument? Oh. A piece of that very same technology responsible for all those lost jobs. You are such an idealist! Using the very tool of the Capitalist! Some social-justice-hero you are!
Finally the link goes on to discuss how the unemployed compete with the employed and keep wages low. Clearly you forget (or never understood in the first place) that wages account for the majority of the cost of most final goods and services, and are “pass-through” costs. That is to say, when you increase wages you directly and proportionately increase the cost to the consumer. Right here is all the proof I need to know you are a child (or childlike). You are either getting your products paid for by your parent(s) or heavily “subsidized” by some government entity. You seem to be advocating that all the workers should get higher wages, forgetting entirely that those higher wages mean higher costs. Any person who actually has to spend their OWN money (not that given to them by their parents, or “subsidized” which is money taken from hard working adults to lower prices for those who don’t work as hard, or not at all) wants to pay as little as possible. And benefits from those low costs (they can buy more of what they need and want when prices are lower).
Your childlike “arguments,” and links to propaganda-esque “sources” make it clear there is no point in continuing this discussion. I would like to take it up once you enter the real world (you work for a living and pay your OWN way, rather than leeching off your family or some government to sustain you). THEN talk to me about this socialist idea you currently defend.
Good day.
It is also the birthday of US Marine Corps Aviation Ordnance.
so it’s like the “Viva la revolution” day huh
In Portugal we say “Viva a revolução”.
I really enjoy your articles Rita and I feel like something is missing when you don”t publish. Enjoy your day off and know I am looking forward to whatever you publish next.
I’ve not heard of this, I’d be interested to see you write a historical article on it.
That could be arranged… 🙂
Portugal was among the western supported Capitalist Authoritarian dictatorships like South Korea, Spain, Thailand, Chile and many more who suffered terribly and lots of people have ended up being victims for very few to no reasons.
South Korea alone they rounded up homeless kids and put them in fucking concentration camps.
These kids became homeless because of the system it was not their fault and yet they were punished for it, this was the daily lives of people around in these countries, living in fear.
People say Socialist countries were so bad but I never heard anyone who lived in them talking about living in fear everyday.
Chile also operated concentration camps.
Its very important to read abut these countries to know the true horrors of Corporate Capitalism going too far.
How very interesting, Rita, thanks for sharing!
Thanks Rita. Hope it was a good day for you and family.
Well, 25th of April is also the anniversary of the end of WW2 in Italy and it is a national holiday to remember the end of the Fascism in 1945!
Thanks! Will check more info on it… I probably should as a person that speaks Portuguese as well 😛
Apart from that, today it is 30 years since the Chernobyl accident.
Thank you for shearing part of your countrys history, in New Zealand we also have a holiday on the 25th called ANZAC day, where we remember our service personal that have fallen in all the conflits that we as a country have been part of.
Feliz 25 de Abril atrasado, heh.
I was in high school at the time and as an American it was received with a certain amount of shock and as another Cold War loss that would only encourage the French and Italian Communists; whether this was good or not for Portugal was an irrelevant consideration!
the advantage of being Brazilian is that we do know pretty much about portugal, and our languages are pretty similar soo if we talk in our main language at least 80% can be understood in portuguese from portugal =P (btw late comment but still “feliz 25 de Abril atrasado” como proprio goçalves disse, se livrar da ditadura e da ignorancia é sempre um passo importante em todo o mundo)
Obrigado. 🙂
Also Rita it was anzac day in the 25th of April
My Uncle and Aunt were on a train from Madrid to Lisbon that day, when they got to Lisbon and the streets were filled with tanks and they saw a tank use its gun to open a bank’s front doors they got back on the next train to Madrid which was held at the border for 2 days. Not the best day to be a tourist in Lisbon!
I can imagine your Uncle and Aunt being like this guy, luckily we did things peacefully so they werent in much danger:
http://i.imgur.com/W2lempS.gif
in the meanwhile there are new Q&A and new stats for the T95/Chieftain and no info on this blog
Portuguese folks playing Himmelsdorf with real tanks XD
iirc the first actual “green light code” (sign to start the revolution) was the song “E Depois do Adeus”, “Grândola, Vila Morena” was the second sign for a definitive start of the revolution. And afaik the second one is more popular because it was forbidden to be played before because of the song text.
just my 2cents
Because of Escrava Isaura I hate Brasil and Portugal. It’s your fault that I missed my nightly cartoons, they where on a different channel and at the same time as that crap soap opera.
Hi Rita ! I hope you had a nice day.
Even if I have portuguese roots, I basically know nothing Portugal.
My great grand-parents fled the portuguese dictatorship.
Greetings from France !
longo Portugal ao vivo!