9.15 HD Detailed armor changes


I have my little thoughts at the end of each list of tank changes.



•Vision slits no longer weakspots
•Raised area on engine deck removed

Verdict:  Still no armor, but at least it’s slightly less likely to get hit.



•Driver hatch is no longer a weakspot (+10mm)
•Vision slits no longer weakspots
•Hull floor buffed to 25mm (+15mm)
•UFP buffed to 58° (+1°)
•LFP nerfed to 29° (-7°)
•Rear side hull by engine deck no longer sloped (-33°)

•Turret shape is now more like a T-26 than early T-34-76 (less flat from front)
•Door weakspot on turret rear removed (+5mm)
•Tiny 0 armor hole for MG removed
•0 armor hole for gun looks slightly wider

Verdict:  Between the better turret shape and fewer UFP weakspots, I’d call it a buff




•Hull is the same as BT-7 art now
•Side hull mostly buffed to 19mm (+4mm)
•Hull extensions for front wheels removed

Verdict: Armor is still not there, but can autobounce 57mm shots from the side now instead of only 45mm.  The hull extensions for the front wheel were of notable size as well.  Buff.


•Driver hatch is no longer thicker than UFP (-20mm)
•Spaced armor on hull side for engine removed

Verdict:  Certainly a nerf, but the T-80 never really relied on armor much in the first place


•Driver hatch and other 42mm UFP spot same thickness as UFP (-17mm)
•UFP angled nerfed to 59° (-1°)

Verdict:  Same deal as T-80


•Tracks add armor to UFP (+10mm)
•UFP and LFP fixed to 60° (was 58°-61°)

Verdict:  It’ll feel the same, but kind of a buff I guess


•Vision slits no longer weakspots
•Front hull beak is rounded instead of flat
•Beak buffed to 100mm (+25mm)
•UFP/LFP angles buffed to 55°/48° (+3°/ +2°)
•Hull rear reworked.  Overall will feel the same

•Stock turret rear is buffed to 80mm (+20mm)
•Stock turret roof buffed to 30mm (+10mm)
•Stock turret cupola is now 60mm on sloped parts (-20mm)
•0 armor hole behind mantlet is a bit bigger
•Stock turret mantlet nerfed to 80mm (-10mm)

•Top turret mantlet slightly reshaped (buff)
•0 armor hole behind mantlet is much larger
•Top turret turret ring is smaller target

Verdict:  Turret nerf, hull buff.  Probably slight nerf overall, but mostly from mantlet 0 armor holes.


•Beak removed
•LFP and shoulders nerfed to 80mm (-20mm)
•UFP/LFP changed to 51°/55° (+3°/-11°)
•Rangefinder tumor is more compact
•Rangefinder tumor front nerfed to 100mm (-20mm)
•Hull side behind tracks nerfed to 60mm (-20mm)
•Hull floor side slopes nerfed to 20mm (-10mm)
•Rear of superstructure nerfed to 30mm (-15mm)
•Mantlet area reworked
•Mantlet is a bit smaller, but tougher
•0 armor hole behind mantlet noticeably larger
•Housing roof top buffed to 30mm (+10mm)
•Housing top is much larger

Verdict: The mantlet does look a little tougher, but that’s likely offset by it being smaller, larger 0 armor hole, and other stuff being weaker to varying degrees.  Nerf

Object 430

•UFP/LFP angles buffed to 60°/55° (+1°/+1°)
•”Edges” of UFP are larger, adding two relatively flat 120mm spots to front
•No overmatch spot on LFP now
•Hull floor side slopes angle nerfed to 29° (was 38°)
•Upper hull side slopes buffed to 48°-51° (was 37°-48°)
•Hull roof is 16mm now, instead of just the engine deck (-24mm)

•Turret rear is mostly 63mm
•Turret is harder to overmatch from the front (both on cupolas and roof)
•Tank manages to be even smaller

Verdict: Buff.  Hull roof is now vulnerable to stuff smaller than 122mm overmatching it, but the new size, smaller overmatch spots on turret, and improved side slope result in a buff.





Pz 38 (t)

•Look at the LT vz. 38, then put spare tracks on it that add 5mm.

Verdict: Buff.  Protects a lot better against autocannons and has a 50mm thick elite turret instead of 25mm or less.


VK 30.01 (P)

•Hatches and vision slits removed as weakspots
•Driver’s port no longer creates 115mm armor zone (-30mm)

•Stock turret roof nerfed to 25mm (-15mm)
•Change to stock turret front is a nerf
•Stock turret cupola shape changed with 95mm middle area (+15mm)

•Top turret cupola style changed
•Top turret cupola is 95mm and slightly larger (+13mm)
•Top turret roof nerfed from 28mm to 25mm (-3mm)
•Top turret mantlet 0 armor hole is larger
•Top turret mantlet armor layout is same as stock Tiger P
•Top turret armor behind mantlet is now 100mm (+35mm)
•Top turret roof has bump added through the middle

Verdict: Stock turret is worse for sure.  Top turret is probably worse, but that style of turret is such a clusterfuck of different thicknesses it’s hard to tell.  Missing the driver’s port strongspot sucks, but the tons of other weakspots won’t be missed.  It’s a mixed bag, possibly leaning towards nerf I think.





T1 Cunningham

•9.5mm sideskirts added
•Everything but the mantlet, turret front, and hull front is now 6.3mm.

Verdict:  Have fun no longer being able to autobounce 20mm rounds.


•UFP nerfed to 12.7mm (-9.1mm)
•LFP and upper side hull nerfed to 12.7mm (-6.3mm)
•Stock turret is not 19mm all around (was 21mm fron, 13mm elsewhere)

Verdict: weaker to Pz I C and HE


•35.8mm hull roof in front of turret removed
•UFP/LFP angle buffed to 66°/55° (+1°/+3°)
•Front hull roof is now horizontal
•Engine deck reshaped some
•Hull side is much better sloped, up to 55°

•Turret ring is a bit larger
•No more flat 76.2mm spot under mantlet
•35.8mm bump on hull side for turret ring removed
•Turret model is basically the same as the M48A1, but with a paper turret ring and even bigger tumor
•WG is still bad at modeling and has the mantlet as being weaker than it should be

Verdict: Better, but likely not enough to notice.  Still a fatton.




The small countries


•Nothing much

Verdict: Nothing special

Chi-Nu Kai

•Some changes in the shape of stuff

Verdict: Basically the same


•”Turret” front nerfed to 30mm (-20.8mm)
•”Turret” sides and rear buffed to 30mm (+4.6mm)
•”Turret” roof nerfed to 10mm (-2.7mm)
•Small parts of front hull buffed to 60mm (+10mm)

Verdict: Can’t bully tier 3 tanks or resist HE as well anymore.  Nerf.


Type 62

•Turret armor layout tweaked
•Commander’s cupola is somewhat smaller
•Turret side near the rear nerfed to 30mm (-5mm)
•UFP/LFP buffed to 59°/53° (+1°/+5°)

Verdict: Still shit armor


•Top turret and stock turret have same armor layout as Type 62

Verdict: While not the exact same, it’s still got basically the same changes as the Type 62

Centurion Mk. I

•Beak removed from front hull
•spare tracks add 12.7mm to UFP
•UFP/LFP buffed to 57°/44° (+3°/+5°)
•Added 76.2mm spaced armor continuing off edges of LFP similar to other centurions

•Stock turret mantlet is all 127mm (was 152mm-76mm)
•More of stock turret roof is 25.4mm (-25.4mm)
•Side turret hatches and secondary gun mount no longer thinner than surrounding armor
•Stock turret cupola is smaller and more rounded
•Stock turret 0 armor hole behind mantlet is much less tall
•Minor changes to stock turret elsewhere

•Top turret mantlet gets wrecked
•Stock caernarvon turret is very similar to the new version

Verdict:  About as bad you expected

AMX 13 90

•Hull is same as AMX 13 57, but with +5mm armor on UFP from spare tracks
•Turret changes so it’s similar to AMX 13 57 armor layout (nerf)

Verdict: Nerf since UFP or turret won’t really troll bounce much anymore, but that’s about it”


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