9.17.1 Patchnotes- Tank Changes

Patch notes for 9.17.1 are out. These are the tank changes:

Centurion Mk. I
– Reload time for OQF 20-pdr Gun Type A Barrel for the second turret changed from 8 seconds up to 7.5 seconds.
– The maximum forward speed is changed from 40 kph to 50 kph

Centurion Mk. 7/1
– Reload for 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7A1 reduced from 12 seconds. to 11.2 sec.
– Maximum speed forward changed from 40 kph to 50 kph

FV4202
– Maximum speed forward changed from 40 kph to 50 kph

Panther
– Reload time for 7,5 cm Kw.K. L/100 for the second turret changed from 4.4 seconds up to 4 seconds.
– Recharge time gun 7,5 cm Kw.K. L / 100 in the first turret is changed from 4.6 to 4.2 seconds.

Tiger I
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 projectile for 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 changed from 171 mm to 194 mm
– Reinforced booking masks all the tools for the second tower of
the Tiger (the P):
– Reinforced gun mantlet for all the guns of both towers of

Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger
– Engine power changed from 140 hp up to 220 hp

Grille 15
– Reload time for 15 cm Pak L/63 changed from 16.5  to 18 sec.
– Depression of 15 cm Pak L/63 changed from -8 degrees to -7 degrees
– Maximum speed is changed back to 20 kph to 15 kph
– Engine power for Maybach NL 234 was changed from 900 hp to 850 hp

VK.36.01 H
– Penetration of projectile Pzgr 40 for 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 changed from 171 mm to 194 mm

Jagdpanzer IV
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 projectile for 8.8 cm Pak L/56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm

Jagdpanther
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 projectile for 8,8 cm Pak L/56 changed from 171 mm to 194 mm in

VK 30.02 D
– Traverse speed for second turret changed from 30°/sec to 45°/sec
– Traverse speed or first turret changed from 32°/sec to 45°/sec
– Penetration of projectile Pzgr 40 for 8.8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm
– Maximum speed changed from 56 kph to 60 kph
– Engine power 507 MB changed from 720 hp up to 800 hp

VK 30.01 P
– The spread of guns during hull traverse reduced from 0.28 to 0.25
– The spread of guns hull traverse with first suspension is reduced from 0.28 to 0.25
– The spread of guns hull traverse with second suspension is reduced from 0.25 to 0.22
– Dispersion of 8.8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 during traverse of first turret reduced from 0.18 to 0.16
– Dispersion of 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56   during traverse of second turret reduced from 0.16 to 0.15
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 projectile for 8.8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm
– HP with first turret changed from 610 to 650 units.
– HP with second turret changed from 710 to 750 units.


Pz.Kpfw. III/IV
– Reload time for 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L/48 for the second turret changed from 4.3 seconds to 4 seconds
– Reload time gun 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L/43 for the second turret changed from 4.3 seconds to 4 seconds
– View range for first turret changed from 320 m to 340 m..
– View range for second turret changed from 320 m to 350 m..
– HP with first turret changed from 380 to 420 units
– HP with second turret changed from 440 up to 480 units

Pz.Kpfw. V Berge-Panther Alpha and Pz.Kpfw. V Berge-Panther (China only)
– The shells are replaced by shells from the 7,5 cm KwK 42 L / 70:
– armor-piercing shells Pzgr 39 (110/110) is replaced by Pzgr 39 (150/135)
– armor-piercing projectiles Pzgr 40 is replaced by Pzgr 40 (194/135)
– high-explosive shells Sprgr 18 (38/175) replaced by Sprgr 8 (38/175)
– The spread of guns changed from 0.39 m to 0.37 m
– Dispersion after firing is reduced from 4 to 3.5
– Aim time changed from 2.3 seconds. to 2 seconds
– View range was changed from 350 m to 365 m..
– The speed of turret traverse changed from 30 °/sec to 44 °/sec

Nashorn
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 projectile for 8.8 cm Pak L/56 was changed from 171mm to 194mm

Maus
– The spread of weapons during hull rotation reduced from 0.22 to 0.2
– Accuracy changed from 0.38 m to 0.36 m
– Dispersion during turret rotation reduced from 0.06 to 0.05
– Reload changed from 14.9 seconds. 12 seconds
– Aim time changed from 2.3 seconds. to 2.1 seconds
– Front turret armor increased from 240 to 260 mm
– Bottom hull side armor increased from 80 to 140 mm
– Hull armor increased from 200 to 250 mm

E 50
– Dispersion of 8.8 cm Kw.K. L/100 for the second turret changed from 0.3 to 0.29
– Dispersion of 8.8 cm Kw.K. L/100 in the second turret during travers reduced from 0.12 to 0.1
– Dispersion of 8.8 cm Kw.K. L/100 in the first turret during traverse reduced from 0.12 to 0.1
– Reload time gun 8.8 cm Kw.K. L/100 for the second turret changed from 6.6 seconds. to 5.5 seconds.
– Reload time gun 8.8 cm Kw.K. 43 L/71 changed into the second turret from 7 seconds to 5.5 seconds
– Reload time for 8,8 cm Kw.K. 43 L/71 in the first tower changed from 7.3 seconds. to 6.9 seconds
– Aim time for 8.8 cm Kw.K. L /100 for the second turret changed from 2.9 seconds to 2 seconds
– Aim time for 8.8 cm Kw.K. L/100 in the first tower is changed from 2.9 seconds to 2.2 seconds
– Depression f all guns in both turrets changed from -5 degrees and -8 degrees

E 75
– The spread of weapons from the first suspension movement decreased from 0.24 to 0.22.
– The spread of weapons during movement of the second suspension is reduced from 0.22 to 0.21.
– The spread of weapons during rotation of the first suspension is reduced from 0.24 to 0.22.
– The spread of weapons during rotation of the second suspension is reduced from 0.22 to 0.21
– Dispersion of 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 for the second turret changed from 0.38 m to 0.37 m
– Dispersion for 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 in the second turret during rotation was reduced from 0.18 to 0.11
– Aim time 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 for the second turret changed from 2.9 seconds. to 2.4 sec

E 100
– Dispersion for 12.8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 was changed from 0.38 m to 0.36 m
– Dispersion for 12.8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 during turret rotation is reduced from 0.1 to 0.07
– Reload time gun 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 changed from 14.3 seconds. 13.3 seconds
– Aim time guns 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 was changed from 2.9 seconds. to 2.3 seconds
– Penetration of Pzgr 42 guns for 15 cm Kw.K. L / 38 changed from 235 mm to 246 mm

Tiger P
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 for 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L / 56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm
– Reinforced gun mantlets of both towers

VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B
– Spread during movement with first suspension reduced from 0.23 to 022.
– Dispersion of 12.8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 for the second turret changed from 0.38 m to 0.37
– Dispersion of 12.8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 in the second turret during rotation changed from 0.16 to 0.13
– Aim time for 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 for the second turret changed from 2.9 seconds. to 2.6 seconds.
– Time gun aiming 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 for the second turret changed from 2.9 seconds. to 2.6 seconds
– Lower plate armor reduced from 200 to 170 mm
– Hull side armor increased from 100 to 120 mm
– Removed vulnerable zones in the upper plate armor

Panther II
– For the second turret added gun 8.8 cm Kw.K. L / 100
VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 for 8.8 cm Kw.K. 36 L / 56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm
– Angles of elevation and depression of guns changed both towers from -6 to -8.
– Upper plate armor is changed from 120 to 150 mm
– Lower plate armor changed from 120 to 100 mm

Pz.Sfl. IVc
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 for 8.8 cm Flak 37 L/56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm

Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm
– Dispersion during movement reduced from 0.2 to 0.15.
– Dispersion during hull rotation reduced from 0.2 to 0.15.
– Dispersion changed from 0.35 to 0.32
– Dispersion during turret rotation changed from 0.16 to 0.11.
– Dispersion after firing changed from 4.0 to 2.0
– Reload changed from 4.6 seconds to 4.2 seconds
– Added side skirts 5 mm

Panther/M10
– Dispersion during movement reduced from 0.19 to 0.15.
– Dispersion during hull rotation reduced from 0.19 to 0.15.
– Gun dispersion changed from 0.35 to 0.32
– Dispersion after firing has been reduced from 4 to 2
– Dispersion during turret rotation was reduced from 0.12 to 0.11
– Reload changed from 4.5 seconds. up to 4 seconds
– View range changed from 350 m to 365 m.
– Maximum forward speed changed from 46 km / h to 55 km / h
– Added sspaced armor on the front, sides and stern of the body, around the perimeter of the turret. The thickness of the screens is 5 mm

VK 30.01 D
– Second suspension traverse changed from 38 to 40
– Reload for 7.5 cm Kw.K. 42 L / 70 for the second turret changed from 4.4 seconds to 4.2 seconds
– Traverse speed of first turret changed from 32 °/ sec to 35 ° / s
– Trsverse speed of second turret changed from 32 ° / sec to 45 ° / s
– Maximum speed forward changed from 56 km / h to 60 km / h

Indien-Panzer
– Aim time for 9cm Kanone for the turret Indien-Panzer changed to 2.7 seconds. 2.5 seconds
– Aim time for 8.8 cm Kw.K. 43 L / 71 for the turret Indien-Panzer changed to 2.9 seconds. to 2.7 seconds
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 for 8.8 cm Kw.K. 36 L / 56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm

Leopard Prototype A
– Depression of all guns in both turrets changed -6 to -8 degrees

VK 72.01 (K)
-Dispersion during movement reduced from 0.23 to 0.21.
– Dispersion during hull rotation reduced from 0.23 to 0.21
– Dispersion during turret rotation reduced from 0.16 to 0.1.
– Reload changed from 22 seconds. to 20 sec.
– Aiming gun time changed from 3.4 seconds to 2.9 seconds
– Penetration of Pzgr 42 guns for 15 cm Kw.K. L / 38 changed from 235 mm to 246 mm
– Ammunition capacity changed from 24 to 35 rounds
– Maximum speed forward changed from 43 km / h to 33 km / h


VK 30.02 (M)
– The spread of guns 7,5 cm Kw.K. 42 L / 70 in the second turret during rotation is reduced from 0.2 to 0.12.
– The spread of guns 7,5 cm Kw.K. 42 L / 70 in the second turret after firing reduced from 4.0 to 3.0
– Spread gun 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L / 48 in the second turret after firing reduced from 4.0 to 3.0
– Upper front platerl armor increased from 60 to 85 mm.
– Lower plate armor reduced from 60 to 50 mm.

Waffenträger auf Pz. IV
– Penetration of Pzgr 42 guns for 15 cm Pak L / 38 was changed from 235 mm to 246 mm

T-34-85M
– Shells replaced by shells from T-34-85 “Rudy”
– shell UBR-365K (160/126) replaced by UBR-365KBM (180/144).
– Projectile UBR-365P (160/167) is replaced by UBR-365PBM (180/194).
– Projectile UOF-365K (280/43) replaced by the UOF-365BM (300/44).
– Review increased from 350 to 360 m.
– Hull traverse speed is reduced from 0.24 to 0.22.
– The spread of guns has been reduced from 0.42 to 0.37.
– Aim time reduced from 2.5 to 2.2

T28
– rotation speed running T28VVSS T46 is changed from 18 to 20
– Rotation speed running T28VVSS T56 is changed from 20 to 24
– Maximum speed forward changed from 18 km / h to 22 km / h
– Maximum speed moving back changed from 7 km / h to 10 km / h

T95
– rotation speed running T95HVSS changed from 16 to 20
– rotation speed running T95HVSSM2 changed from 18 to 24
– Maximum speed forward changed from 13 km / h to 20 km / h
– Maximum reverse speed changed from 6 km / h to 10 km / h

T28 Prototype
– Maximum speed forward changed from 18 km / h to 28 km / h
– Maximum reverse speed changed from 7 km / h to 10 km / h

T110E5
– Reduced armor for commander cupola
– Armor at side of the roller is reduced from 254 to 76.2 mm.

Heavy Tank No. VI
– Penetration Pzgr projectile. 40 guns 8,8 cm Kw.K.36 L/56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm
– Reinforced Gun mantlet

Type 5 Heavy
– Added gun 15 cm / 45 41st Year Type
– Reinforced turret and hull armor

Type 4 Heavy
– Added gun 15 cm/45 41st Year Type
– Weight capacity for Type 4 Heavy Kai changed from 165,000 kg. up to 170,000 kg.
– Reinforced hull armor

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9.17.1 Patchnotes- Tank Changes

83 thoughts on “9.17.1 Patchnotes- Tank Changes

  1. atikabubu says:

    >Hull armor increased from 200 to 250 mm
    xaxaxaxa)))))) Anton, did you leave your Sekrit Dokumints at SerB’s house? xD

    1. Konstantin says:

      It’s just a wrong translation mate. It’s something about “angled parts of the hull”, probably only the small strips where the side and the front plates meet.

    2. OrigamiChik3n says:

      It’s because for Maus drivers doing something beyond pressing W is way too hard work. WG once again comes to the rescue of poor kiddies who can’t troll other players with their impenetrable armour.

  2. DoctorBest says:

    “8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 changed from 171 mm to 194 mm”
    this will make these tanks a lot better when facing higher tiers, those VK 30.02 D buffs doe ! That tank is already a monster when top tier, I love it maggle.

    1. DoctorBest says:

      OMG I JUST SAW THIS: Leopard Prototype A
      – Depression of all guns in both turrets changed -6 to -8 degrees
      These buffs are so needed, I’m loving these patchnotes.

  3. Nocomment says:

    Ok its not April the 1st so what has been done with War Gamings balance department?
    What ever it is, keep them there and allow this bunch of imposters full reign.

    1. lord of the trolls Shadow35 himself says:

      all those patches were needed… stop winning,
      For once, WG did a good balance work to make german vehicles more appealling. (especialy in strongholds)…

  4. banjoman150 says:

    HELL YEAH finally the premiumrounds of sort 88 can keep up with all the other guns out there.
    Penbuff on E100 AP is much appreciated although i doubt it will change the HEAT spam when ur facing a tryhard in anything even remotely armored.

    That superlong 88 on E50 seems to be a competitive alternative to the 105mm as it has 2620 dpm without equipment or skills.
    Also that MAUS buff is insane. I doubt the 250 are for the lower plate though… still 260 base on the turretfront will make angling the turret that much more effective.

    The changes that are currently listed under “Panther 2” belong to the VK 45A i guess. Ive heared that the Panther 2 would get the 8.8 L100 but i didnt know the VK45A would get it too. It would certainly make for a more unique playstyle compared to the Tiger 2 if it had a high ROF low ALPHA gun… we shall see

    Speedbuffs for the american TDs are great new although i didnt expect them to raise it to 28 in case of the T28 prot. Will most likely revitalise this line as those tanks are just a nightmare to play right now due to the passive playstyle one is forced to use when playing those.

    Overall alot of tanks that were lacking or simply not fun to play get some love and the new jap. derpguns are interesting. First time im exited for a new patch in ages.

    1. Andy O says:

      The top speed buffs on t28, t95, and t28 proto will probably be meaningless. Not enough engine power as well as bad terrain resistance wont let them reach the new top speeds anyway. It’ll be a repeat of when they buffed IS-7’S top speed from 50 to 60. Didnt change anything. Only helped down cliffs

  5. Anonymous says:

    Loving the changes to the US TDs… shame they arent removing the “chin” on the T28 or buffing the armor of the T28 Proto slightly

  6. Pino says:

    “E 50
    – Depression f all guns in both turrets changed from -5 degrees and -8 degrees”

    Does this mean it has -8° to the front? That would be sick

  7. Anonymous says:

    A German major buff ! WOAW!
    I though it wouldn’t ever happen again after some major changes in 2012 !
    __________________________________________
    VK4502 B : minor nerf, major buff… overall, this tank is now a Battleship on ground….
    (Yet, VK4502 A is still a real pain in the ass…)

    Pleasant buff of all tier 6 germans (they were OK, but I guess now they are getting quite competitive), and I am also very satsified with all of the German heavies getting an armor buff, and the maus recieving a significant RoF buff ! YAAAY !

    GG WG!

  8. VikingNorth says:

    Am a little puzzeld by the description: “Reinforced hull armor” at the Type 4-5 tanks.
    What does that mean? Increased armor? If so, by how much?

    1. Nocomment says:

      Yup looks like they are finally turning over a new leaf and have decided that the Germans at least should be competitive.

  9. VK 72.01 (K)
    – Maximum speed forward changed from 43 km / h to 33 km / h

    FUCKING WHY??? wont it end up being way too similar in performance to the E-100 with these changes? the gun handling will be practically identical and it will only be 3 km/h faster.

    1. The Vk has a turret that is so tough, heat can barely chew through it. Essentially, the Vk can stop a lot more bs. than an E100 or Maus could while still returning fire. It also ensures the people who got the vk through clan wars won’t cry too much.

  10. hmn says:

    Why isn’t the Tiger II getting some kind of buff? It’s absolutely terrible, if not in fact the worst of the German heavies (after the DW2 of course). Even if you can’t hit the massive LFP weakspot, the turret only has 185mm flat armour, ffs! Plenty of same tier tanks can go through that with no gold, even some on tier 6.

  11. DeanoGTO says:

    when you say panther 2 i think you meant to say vk4502a because panther 2 doesnt have 120mm front armor plus the turret name is vk4502a. (between vk b and flak bus)

    1. Ares says:

      E75 has two big weakspot, plus all gold ammo can pen turret.

      So, gun handling get buff, still bad dpm. E75 will be fine. Vk auf B should get turret buff as well, WG said.

  12. SpeedyCraft51 says:

    The Maus armor buff are making me hard…

    260mm turret armor means no more autopen by tier X heavies (at least with AP) when facing directly, and harder time to autopen it with gold when angling the turret.
    Same with hull armor : 200mm UFP could be autopenned by tier 9-10 gold ammo, now people cant just autoaim at it.
    And VKB is getting a weakspot but can now sidescrape, so I guess its a fair rebalance : no more invincible front armor but now it can use its rear turret.

    Cant wait for Mauschen and VK100 stats. My german tanks finaly get some love <3

  13. Rombat says:

    i wellcome all the buffs and i curse the grille 15 nerf and t110e5 nerf…increasing the role of armor by nerfing it it’s kind a nonsens.
    Rest in peace grille…after the newcomming nerfs on shell distribution in target and the nerf on shell penetration over distance will be useless…say hello to t110e3 the new king of td’s….that will be pretty soon nerfed after all the players will be playing it…the carussel of retard nerfs is comming

  14. SpeedyCraft51 says:

    Also is it just me or is the lowtier 8.8cm gun buff only for gold ammo while the regular ammo is still a terrible 146mm pen ?

  15. SpottableSky says:

    This can silence the idiots that cry russian bias at everything, I am SOOOO hyped for this, German tanks are my 1st most played tanks and these buffs will REALLY encourage me to start playing the powercreeped tanks that really needed these buffs. It’s about time the e5 got a nerf

  16. sfcstorm says:

    Omg the E50 8.8 100 would actually be viacle alternative now. 2 secs aimtime with best turret bloom and .29 accuracy…LOL can you say laser beam?

  17. sfcstorm says:

    What they need to do to the E5 cupola is make the hatch have spaced armor so you cant pen it with HEAT 100% of the time, but make it 230ish vs AP so guys need to take time to aim and shoot and even T8 heavies have shot. But lowering it like they will from 250 down means HEAT will be a 100% go to….Thats what we all need nor HEAT, less aiming

  18. sfcstorm says:

    And OMG they hnerfed the 72 01. They gave it bullshit dispersion and bloom still comaperedto others and a measly 20 sec reload and killed its speed .

    – Maximum speed forward changed from 43 km / h to 33 km / h

    So its stil la much worse E100, and now its as slow as one..GG WG.

    7201 should have Maus level laser accuracy and bloom for its naked armor and huge reload.

    1. SpeedyCraft51 says:

      Maus has “laser accuracy” of 0.36, which is still bad ; and it has a 128mm gun, not a 150mm.

      VK has a much MUCH better turret than E-100, and trades dpm for it. They both have similar mobility, similar ability to sidescrape, except E-100’s turret is an autopen for HEAT while VK’s turret is T110E5 level of strong, and I mean pre-nerf T110E5.

  19. Anonymous says:

    why nerf the top speed of VK 72.01 (K) .
    I’ve been thinking that WG would not nerf the premium tanks :/
    you just made all the statistics same as E-100 sigh…

  20. siralexice says:

    FV4202 max speed increased is good, tank has paper armor and should make it better at flanking now
    Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger engine power seriously increased, that was much needed, it was moving like a broken Tortoise.
    Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm is one of my preferred tanks, now is a much better sniper and slightly better chance of survival with the spaced side skirts.
    Waffenträger auf Pz. IV with more pen on the big gun, I might try it, I like to use the gun with the most pen that is available.
    Many tier 7 and 8 german mediums get reload times reduced and better dispersion, but seems they forgot about the Panther 8.8.

  21. OMG am I dreaming….?

    Finally the German tanks are being buffed instead of constantly shit on….

    Holy shit….

    The 8.8 l56 still is meh though. This change is just to it’s gold ammo…

      1. Really good now? Really lol….

        You think 146mm penetration is good on tier 6 heavies….lol

        All the other nations have 160mm plus on tier 6 heavies.

        We will have to see how the gun handling changes will effect these tanks but the 8.8 l56 has a slow shell speed, shit accuracy and shit penetration. Even the dpm is rather meh on most tanks that have it.

        That gun is still meh but at least they are finally giving it some buffs rather than nothing at all…

  22. Da fuq did I just read???

    In general it is fine to buff really underpowered tanks, but why on earth do you need to buff half of the tanks in the game in one patch? It only creates more and more powercreep against tanks, that are facing all these overbuffed ones and are still available with trash stats (like most of the Tier6-7 TD’s that will face this buff list). Just get over your greed WG and start to nerf something. Otherwise in two years time we will have every Tier5 tank with 200mm pen, 200mm armor and 1000 hitpoints. 🙁

    What the hell are those stupid unhistorical armor buffs? 150mm on a Panther!?? Then why not buff the Sturer Emil for example with 100mm armor and 200 shell ammo count, as that is some really underpowered TD, not a Tiger or E-75, which already perform quite well..

    And 194mm pen on a gun, which couple of patches ago was 150mm!??? Do all of the short 88mm gun tanks have a 30% winrate that you need to do such a drastic buff without changing any other parameter? Is this how you make the role of armor important now? Just WTF!!!?

    1. EDITED: Never mind the rant about short 88. I mistook the standata ammo for gold. But anyway buffing gold ammo pen is not the way you make the armor role higher 🙂

    2. EDITED2: Ok, seems like the armor buffs are applied to VK A not Panther (please correct the article, so it could be more easy understandable).

      P.S. The article itself looks like it was translated with google translate 🙁
      “Recharge time”, “Reinforced booking masks all the tools for the second tower”?
      Maybe “reload time” and “turret”?

      1. All that rage. None of that understanding…

        Also if you really think that had the greman lines aren’t actually underpowered anyway….then you must be dreaming.

    1. Teknokraatti says:

      Or you could download the test server client and see for yourself. It doesn’t cost anything and anybody can play on it. It’s not supertest or sandbox.

  23. Infernal969 says:

    Holy fuck, global buffs for the inferior fascist tanks?
    Are the numbers in the right places?
    Is this really happening?

  24. Jesper says:

    Where is a needed buff for the Leopard 1??? Since HD and a lot minor nerfs it is not really competetive anymore… shit acceleration and much slower gunhandling. Against russian meds, no thanks.

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