The really significant Changes are to the front and some to the side armor.For the back and turret I can not find any reliably significant changes. Though the suspension and transverse rear transmission are still no damage hit boxes ( the blue parts of the armor profile pics). Tier X left and Tier IX right. At all times great pains were taken to get alignment and impact points the same for both the live client and 9.22 test client. Screen shots taken with Tank Inspector.
As you will see there is very little room for error when shooting the rear sprocket and trying to get a penning shot, also the hull bottom is quite high up.
Sorry, on mobile so can’t blow up the image. But I don’t see anything different. It just looks like they put it at tier 9 and called it good. Lazy, money grubbing WG with Russian bis! Do you want t59 in loot box? Yes? Do we like money? Yes.
I pulled it up on PC and its very small change for the most part. I say I needs to be nerffed a bit more on the sides and then maybe it will be okay. I do like the 1mm buff on the rear though that’s funny.
Is your whining mode set up by default, my dude?
Yes, Screw the man and OP tanks that they keep trying to put in.
You’re calling WG money grubbing over this? What basis do u have? I mean they have a lot things they can be called out on but money grubbing over a non-premium tank? Dude u either need some sleep or to think before u type b/c this is obtainable by EVERYONE for FREE
The issue is Wargaming has shown a tendancy with the last few tank lines added for them to be very strong so people use free xp to get them right away. Where does all that free xp come from you may ask? Well lots of people spend gold on the 1=35 conversion days to convert from the tanks they find fun grinding tons of free xp on. So in a way it is money grubbing because they know many people to use free xp to unlock these the second it comes to live server.
also gotta realize, this at tier 9 kills 9 8 and 7 and if we find this 1 tank even the 2 key can’t pen well, what’s the point of playing if you are just gonna get shit stomped every game XD
Correct but can you pen it with regular ammo effectively? No.
So, what are we going to do? Dab that 2 key and fire all the gold we can to kill it. Yes, you can use credits to purchase the ammo but your not going to make credits that game. Most players are going to purchase a premium tank, premium account time or even both to make up the difference in credits. The third option is to stay at tier 6 and never have to see them and make plenty of money at the same time but that’s a small number of players.
Yet this isn’t money grubbing because it a tank we can all achieve? The Type 4 is OP as well and most people just shoot gold. This is a stronger more capable Type 4. It’s basically a tier 10 tank at tier 9. So, nothing wrong for it being in the game? It’s fine that we all have to fire gold at it and it makes the Obj. 252 look normal now? Buts it’s a tier 9 heavy! It’s supposed to be stronger the a tier 8! Yes but not like this.
There’s a cause and effect when they implement such Tanks to the game. Players will either buy Wargamings goods to make there experience more enjoyable at top tier, leave, or purchase premium tier 6’s and stay at a low tier. They are going to make money off this in one form or another. It’s just not as blatant as a 60$ price tag and YouTubers creating more attention for the tank.
Torgar, nobody is forced to do the conversion. You can just grind the tank regularly. So it’s people’s own greed and impatience making them jump on the chance to get the tank quickly by using (probably converted) free XP.
The only valid argumentation is that you may need to fire premium ammo to reliably damage these tanks, requiring you to have a high credit income, which is most easily achieved with a premium account plus optionally a premium tank (the latter isn’t required though, you can grind money with good regular medium tier tanks quite effectively).
yeah Mobile res sucks the changes are there just need to look at PC res
I thinks it is safe to say its over powered…
Nerf the upper plate, turet sides, traverse, and give it weak internal moduels and it could be balanced. Something to offset the armor.
Do this and it just ends up being a worse T-10, which would make it entirely pointless.
Thats exactly my thought!
I found that however sneaky or careful I drive my T-10, everybody seems to overcome its armour without breaking a sweat …
they just need to nerf the side armor, make it normal, and maybe nerf the engine a bit, and thats enough…
Changes aside its still OP
nErF iT, StiLL tOo oP
sob, sob, sob…
Fuck your glass cannons.
This might be enough, we’ll have to see how it plays. I think the bigger problem is the angle, not the thickness. Those bottom data points are not high on the pen needed at an equal plane like pictured, but they’re really darn close to autobounce as it is.
these aren’t updated stats, this is just what it had when it was a tier 10 compared to when they bumped it down to 9
Looks like a balanced tank comrade. Stalin would be proud. xaxaxa)))
Ivan? Da Igor? Players learned sekrit of defeating armor! They no flank, they just load moar goald! Impossibru tovarish, our incontrovertible studies tell us gold ammo is only tiny fraction of overall ammo used, cannot possibly be problem.
…..But what if glorious soviet armor could be defeated by capitalist goald ammo? Putin forbid! We’ll make armor so idiot-proof that even goald-spam cannot defeat it! What could go wrong?
and they wonder why this game is going to the pits.. its all the 45%ers that think they know best, that are ruining the game.. gj snowflakes, maybe you can whine about a participation trophy next, since u downloaded the game.
so now the hull armor is useless as every 330 HEAT round will pen it
I think a lot of you are missreading this. The armor changes shown are what the tank was at tier 10 and what it currently is at tier 9 on the test server. They have not changed anything yet.
Indeed, thanks for the hint!
But I think this would be such a bad thing after all … there are many many other tanks and situations when one is not able to pen from sides and/ or track the tank …
Got to correct myself, i think it “wouldn’t” be such a bad thing … damn typo’s 🙂
just name 1 tank that you cant track and do dmg facing it in a complete flat angle..