I am pretty happy to see a french second world war tank and the video is very good and nearly correct.
I am just going to highlight some mistakes (I may have forgotten some) :
– The armor piercing shell of the 37 mm APX SA18 has got around 3 centimeters of penetration and not 2 cm as it is said in the video. More exactly, it penetrates about 29 mm at 100 m with 0° of incidence.
– Same mistake for the AP round of the 37 mm SA38 which penetrates 4 centimeters and not 3 cm as it is said in the video. More exactly, it penetrates about 43 mm at 100 m with 0° of incidence.
– The R40 suspension was developped by AMX (Atelier d’issy-les-MoulineauX) and not APX (Atelier de PuteauX).
Thanks a bunch Teckyota!
I always love learning about French tanks, especially early-war/pre-war ones 🙂
The SA-38 pen at 100m is too low in game, but I guess they needed some reason to use the 25mm gun…
By the way, do you know if any French tank besides the AMR 35 variants used the 25mm gun in real life?
Thanks again!
You are welcome. I am myself a kind of specialist concerning french tanks.
The french tech tree is very far from being historical and the penetration of the SA38 is just one of the many errors. By the way, the penetration of the 25 mm is also a bit too low in game : it should be 52 mm at 100 m instead of 46 mm (this is a detail but this is still 13% more).
Here (http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/615641-critique-des-chars-francais-20-synthese-et-conclusions/page__pid__13865417#entry13865417) you can see what the current french tech tree could look like if it was nearly fully historical (there are still some non-historical features for balance reasons). This is also in french but it should be easy to understand all pictures.
Woo! French tank!
Early war French tank too!
😀
Hi everyone!!
I am pretty happy to see a french second world war tank and the video is very good and nearly correct.
I am just going to highlight some mistakes (I may have forgotten some) :
– The armor piercing shell of the 37 mm APX SA18 has got around 3 centimeters of penetration and not 2 cm as it is said in the video. More exactly, it penetrates about 29 mm at 100 m with 0° of incidence.
– Same mistake for the AP round of the 37 mm SA38 which penetrates 4 centimeters and not 3 cm as it is said in the video. More exactly, it penetrates about 43 mm at 100 m with 0° of incidence.
– The R40 suspension was developped by AMX (Atelier d’issy-les-MoulineauX) and not APX (Atelier de PuteauX).
That’s all!!
I would like to know where you got that info Teckyota, if it’s a book I want it 😉
No problems but all sources are in french.
– Concerning the penetration of the 37 mm APX SA18, you can look at this table (http://france1940.free.fr/armee/ac_stats.html) and this topic (http://deuxiemeguerremondia.forumactif.com/t8521-performances-antichars-comparees).
– Concerning the penetration of the 37 mm SA38, use the same source and compare it to the 3,7 cm Pak36 to get the average penetration at 100 m.
This is also in french, but you can read this topic I wrote (http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/579975-critique-des-chars-francais-20/page__st__120__pid__13019551#entry13019551). Everything concerning both 37 mm is explained in the section “AMX 38” and subsection “Armement”.
Thanks a bunch Teckyota!
I always love learning about French tanks, especially early-war/pre-war ones 🙂
The SA-38 pen at 100m is too low in game, but I guess they needed some reason to use the 25mm gun…
By the way, do you know if any French tank besides the AMR 35 variants used the 25mm gun in real life?
Thanks again!
You are welcome. I am myself a kind of specialist concerning french tanks.
The french tech tree is very far from being historical and the penetration of the SA38 is just one of the many errors. By the way, the penetration of the 25 mm is also a bit too low in game : it should be 52 mm at 100 m instead of 46 mm (this is a detail but this is still 13% more).
Here (http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/615641-critique-des-chars-francais-20-synthese-et-conclusions/page__pid__13865417#entry13865417) you can see what the current french tech tree could look like if it was nearly fully historical (there are still some non-historical features for balance reasons). This is also in french but it should be easy to understand all pictures.
Except the AMR 35 ZT2 and AMR 35 ZT3, the 25 mm was used on the AMC 34 Renault YR (http://www.drivehq.com/file/df.aspx/publish/VVJACK/wwwhome/Gembloux/amc34_84246.jpeg). The 25 mm was one of the gun that could have equipped the amphibious tank from Batignolles-Châtillon (http://wartime.org.ua/uploads/posts/2016-04/1459615794_4.jpg) but this vehicule has never been mass product.
Furthermore, it was used on some wheeled tank as the famous AMD Panhard 178 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/AMD_Panhard_178_Saumur.jpg) or the AM39 Gendron-Somua (http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/photo/france/ac_gendron_am39/am_gendron39_5.jpg).