Lorraine 40 t To be Replaced


just a little update the Lorraine 40 t is planned to be replaced by the Bat.-Châtillon 25 t AP, according to Russian sources.

Between 1950 and 1951, the developers at the FAMH company (Compagnie des forges et Aciéries de la marine et d’Homécourt) ran a development program for a 25 ton medium tank armed with a 90mm gun in an oscillating turret. The development stopped in the pre-project stage and all advancements made were used during the development of Batignolles-Chatillon 25t.


Top Speed: 65 km/h / 20 km/h
Hull Armor: 30/25/20
Turret Armor: 25/25/20
Hit Points:  1675
Suspension Traverse Speed: 44 deg/s
Turret Traverse Speed: 46 deg/s

Clip Size: 6
Rate of Fire: 24 sec – drum, 2,22 sec between shots
Aiming time: 3 sec
Dispersion at 100 m:  0.4 m
Penetration: 200/250/45
Damage: 240/240/320
View Range: 380 m
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Lorraine 40 t To be Replaced

108 thoughts on “Lorraine 40 t To be Replaced

    1. OrigamiChik3n says:

      To be fair i fail to see how replacing real tank with something that didn’t even exist as a napkin sketch “makes sense”.

    2. Anonymous says:

      The problem if this tank replaced the Lorr40T, it is his gun for a tier 9 it’s really mediocre 200mm pen for 240 dmg instead of 232mm pen for 300 dmg of the Lorr 40T

    1. Xee says:

      Because it makes sense. BC looked like evolution of 13/90, Lorr seemed like they put it there because of lack of other options. I assume they will put Lorr somewhere anyway, since it’s historical and stuff.

  1. gpc_4 says:

    Weird, expected that tank to be the reward tank for the third set of new personal missions…maybe there won’t be new personal missions?

  2. nitrokitty says:

    I think overall this is a good change. The Lorraine was a rather awkward bridge between the light tank play style of the AMX 13 90 and the BatChat.

  3. Captain Dorja says:

    lol over matched by a 76mm gun… on t9. RIP. Literally every shell that hits that tank autopens. That looks really bad.

    1. icedacer says:

      this tenk is like tier 9 light tenk with ONLY 380m view range…. this is bad joke from WG + that terrible gun handling….

      1. CynicalDutchie says:

        That whole line has terrible gun handling, it will fit right in with the rest of those shitty tanks.

  4. SmokeWheatEveryday says:

    I was pretty okay with the current lorraine. The only thing better about this tank is the profile and probably the mobility. Worse pen, alpha, aimtime, accuracy and viewrange? They’re completely nerfing this thing wtf, that’s not at all what the lorraine needed.

  5. icedacer says:

    compare this to tier 9 Czech medium tenk…. where the f*ck is balance ? that gun handling is so bad… Lorr is better than this…. WG have to buff whole B-C 25t line -_-” cause that tenks are so bad compare to other light tenks and meds !!!!

  6. Deano says:

    the power the weight of this tank will make or break it because id personally rather have higher engine over and worse terrain resistances than the opposite way around mainly because even if you have great terrain resistances you still seem to climb hills slower than high engine power tanks (although that could just be my perception)

  7. replaced in what sense, will the Lorraine 40t be removed and moved back to tier 8 where it really belongs? I hope it’s the second choice because we could get the AMX-13 105 as the first tier 9 light with the autoloading medium line and AMX-30B medium line become 2 “mini-branches” from either the AMX-13 90, as it is now, or instead research the Lorraine from the AMX-13 75, it would actually make the grind for the tier 9 autoloading medium a little bit easier since you wouldn’t be doing it with a tier 8 light tank

  8. Anonymous says:

    A worse Lorr. should replace the original? I hope its a bad joke!
    Guns stats like a derp gun, (3 sek. aiming time, 0,4 accuracy and 200mm pen only?!?) no gun depression or elevation, nor armor, bad camoflage.
    The Lorry was my best tech 9 WOT tank from the point i drive it with vents, coffe and BIA for better aiming stats.
    You cant camp and win in these maps nowadays, so these tank has to go in the infight, waiting for aim like a non-autoloader and die like a wt 100 during reload at open field. Even with map awarnes. GG WG, realy GG!

  9. I hope they at least rebalance the Lorr. as a tier 8 premium or something, why are they replacing tanks instead of reworking broken game mechanics and balancing ridiculously overpowered tanks?

    1. Anonymous says:

      Batchat 25t is a real tank you can find its prototype rusting between some other old tanks in i thaught a french museum

      1. exocet6951 says:

        Then turn it into a medium.
        AMX 13s are a mess anyways. The 13 75s were light tanks, but by the time the 13 90s came along, they were more tank destroyers akin to the Hellcat in WWII.

        They can put the 13 105 in either lights, mediums or TDs, and neither, and no one would be able to give a valid reason why it shouldn’t be one, other than line continuity, which in itself is already a mess.

  10. CynicalDutchie says:

    Looks to me like it will fit in perfectly with the other tanks thanks to the terrible gun handling. Why does WG hate the batchat line so much?

  11. Nadeah says:

    200 Penetration and 3 second aiming time. This smells like another attempt of WG to create a gold-spamming tank like the T-54 after all the HEAT-54 retardation makes them a lot of money. Better give it 300+ HEAT penetration too just to make it just as retardedly good at selling premium ammo as the T-54.

    Remove the retarded premium ammo on the T-54 and balance it properly god dammit and don’t try and add more medium tanks with stupidly low penetration that can’t even penetrate the flattened flanks of the German heavy tanks reliably.

    1. Reking_Havoc says:

      Ammo only requires silver for purchase. A person can generate that silver without a premium account. Stop crying about higher pen ammo and use it when required.

  12. repofox says:

    I really hope it will at least get the Lorraine’s top gun beside this stock one.
    Otherwise this replacement will be shit.

  13. gkorps says:

    The gun stats are absolutely shit, especially the alpha dmg… if they buff that to the 300 that the lorr has and increase the reload time to like 30, then you could make the case it s a decent balanced tonk. But 240 dmg on a t9 med?! Fck off wg…

  14. itzmix says:

    So they giving us a amx 13 90 in a Batchat skin hmm i wonder where they found these blue prints. GG WP WG so good you guys should just buff the lorraine to have better soft stats and gun to actually aim you just replaced it with a scout which doesnt have light tank buffs. honestly you guys need to fix things properly not just exchange turd for turd.

  15. Swatdennis says:

    The lorrane was one of the best tanks if played correctly, so RIP french tanks…. Does make sence, the lorrane is actualy a 50-100, but then faster, not a real light tank or a real medium….

  16. Hellgar says:

    Only good thing about this would be if they converted the current lorraine 40t tier 8 premium (even if slightly nerfed) for those who own it. Otherwise I don’t see any positives about the replacement as it stands.

  17. gosu says:

    I was going to buy the Lorr 40t, should it mean I have to hurry up or to wait for the replacement ?
    If I buy the lorr 40t today, will I keep it and get the replacement for free ??

    thanks for your insight 🙂

  18. Anonymous says:

    Why the fuck are they not adding the AMX 13 105. You know, the tank that actually saw service in 5+ countries.

    But no, have another prototype.

  19. Emilien Westelynck says:

    Why the hell would they do that? Really they should invest money on balancing their game instead of just doing shit.

  20. darksoruz says:

    Why the hell would they do that? They should invest their money in balancing their game instead of doing shit like that.

  21. Mikosah says:

    So essentially (unless new info comes up) this thing is a more powerful 13-90 with the same MM as the current 13-90. Anyone else find that suspicious?

  22. Sparango says:

    I just finished the Lorraine off and got my bat. Same thing happened with the awful panther. Actually I kinda liked the awful panther.

  23. wolvenworks says:

    my question: is this historical or something from SerB’s Design Bureau? need to check, what with WG claiming “historicity” now

  24. I was going to buy the lorr 40t, should I wait or should I buy it now ?

    If I buy it, will I keep it and get the replacement for free ?

    thanks for your insight 🙂

  25. Brilliant_Tactics says:

    Oh, so, they are trying to nerf Lorr 40t? The 100mm top gun is alpha and omega of Lorr. Who would use that gun in tier 9~11 battles? And also, the premium shell got nerfed. 250pen instead of 263? That would be HEAT shells. Right? So what should I do when I met German heavies? I only could run away? Yeah. I’m gonna sell it if they replace lorraine.

  26. seanpwnery says:

    WG : “Let’s clone the 13/90 and rename it… and say we changed the gun but only really changed the brake on the end of it! Brilliant!”

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