Motive of my absence

TLDR: I’ve got a lot on my plate atm. Getting some things done.


I apologise for my absence. I’ve been getting a lot on my plate these last few days, my cat’s wound is already finishing closing but I’ve been dealing with loss and out and about taking care of documentation like provisional driving license and searching for a car to buy.  These are things that need to be done, right now, for example, British public transports are costing me more money than a thirsty car and besides they are quite unreliable, unpunctual and just with too many messy connections.

I want to go back to studies (Military history) and also take my class H driving license (tracked vehicles) but all these things are slightly far away. I want to keep on living at this place but the school options I have are all +1 hour away plus the class H license will be all the way near London. This summer, when I started going to all these events I’ve meet really nice people that I also would like to keep a friendship with but they are all away up north, I want to be able to just drive to them to hang out, I live in a military area and you rarely get to see the same face twice around here, so things can get pretty isolated and I’m tired of piggybacking on friends every time I need to be anywhere as well.

Working on becoming a full “strong independent sassy women”.

Anyway, on the car, I usually keep things like this away from the blog but most of you are guys so hear ye. Let me know your opinion/suggestions.

Since a kid, I’ve dreamt about owning a UMM Alter. UMM is a Portuguese company that used to make 4x4s but still fabricates parts for the cars that still exist. This company sold cars for civilians and the Portuguese army, my family used to have a couple and I love them dearly. UMM happened to fabricate cars for British roads and I’ve been searching for a model to buy for some months. A now friend of mine, Tom Dooley who’s hobby is collecting vehicles knows of 2 that are being sold, took a look at them are they are really battered, could get them for a very low price but then it would require to replace many parts, get a new paint etc. It’s something I will do some day, a few years from now, but at this moment I need a car that I can get the keys for, just start it up and go where I need to.

By the way, this is how a UMM Alter looks like:

  • As you can see is had closed and open variations, armament comes separately. 🙂


But as I’ve been unable to find a UMM that’s been well taken care of in the UK, there’s another particular vehicle that caught my attention last year and that happens to be for sale.

At TankFest 2015, Jingles and I got some transport issues and we’ve met one of you, an Ex-tanker (Roy aka Dogsbody) who immediately offered to drive us to the hotel where we were staying and back to where we live and the whole time, I was enjoying how good his car felt and sounded. Well that car, a Range Rover happens to be for sale and pretty sure it’s what I will be getting.

This is the photo available so far (will be posting on social media when I get more):


Is a bit thirsty, has a 4.6 litre V8 petrol but I may get it fitted for something that will suck half the fuel. It’s in really good condition and on top of that it received some extra work. It’s an old Range Rover but I find older cars to have more charm. 🙂

My only concern is the insurance… getting some of the guys to look that form me and get me the best deal possible.

It will definitely go anywhere and can carry a great deal, can be expensive if it breaks but it’s a durable good car. My friend wouldn’t sell it to me if he knew the thing isn’t reliable.

Please have in mind, I won’t be driving it on the daily basis as I work from home, this vehicle will be mostly used for close by studies and social reasons, thing is, usually where I socialize is around tank events/farms and the roads can be quite rough at times, I don’t want a “city car” that will end up with square wheels each time I try to hang out with friends.

Also, I’m used to driving things bigger than this RR, my sole driving experience, as an adult, consists of APCs and Tanks, being in a small car really makes me feel uncomfortable and I’m seriously afraid of getting hurt if I get a small one.

-The friend is giving me a sweet deal: 1500 Pounds.

What do you think about it?

Thanks for your patience.


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Motive of my absence

96 thoughts on “Motive of my absence

  1. lywellyn says:

    I don’t know how things are in the UK, but here in the U.S. Range Rovers are a very high-end vehicle with a hefty price tag. If you’re looking at 4x4s exclusively, though, you’re always going to be paying a premium for the vehicle and the petrol. I’ve never owned one myself, but I hear good things about Toyota.

    1. They are high-end everywhere, but as she explains its an old one from a friend, so she can get it quite cheap. It is however quite fuel hungry, so that is not too great, but then again she wants a bigger car, so you wont be able to avoid that really, maybe it can run on LPG which at least in the Netherlands would save over 50% a liter, so that would make it quite affordable to run, (I have no knowledge what determines an engine can/cant run on it) just an idea 🙂

      Oh and if the insurance is a pain, which I imagine it will, maybe a car like a Toyota land cruiser will be cheaper as they are known for their reliability and RR’s are more known for the opposite, depends a bit on the generation of RR though.

      1. well mate, I am sure the LPG sistem is what she thought as well. And what determines the compatibility of the LPG sistem with your car, is the fuel type ( only petrol cars can be converted, sorry diesel fans), an it must have a suction type carburator, so no injection types will fit one. Oh, and there is also a price to pay for that cheapness. LPG, while is an alterntive to petrol, it is a much drier fuel, which means the moving parts will wear out faster ( petrol has aditives in it for prolonging the parts life span), the car will be lazier during acceleration, and also you lose cca 30% of your engine power. You won’t feel that on a straight road, but try to climb a steep hill, or get out of a bog or muddy field. So choices, choices. Anyhow, I am curios to see what she choses. Also, where is jingles? Did he make any recomandations?

    2. thesherbet says:

      In the UK its really only the latest generation or 2 of range rovers that are seen as a high-end vehicle, older ones like this can be found in abundance. As for LPG its not really viable in the uk, simply not supplied in enough petrol stations.
      As mentioned, the only real problem is going to be the insurance on a 4+ litre engine as a’ technically, first time driver.

      1. Ah okay, that sucks, but you know it is still an awesome car for really cheap. (The UK probably has a spare RR lying around every corner ;p)

        Over here almost every other petrolstation has LPG, so here its a really viable type of fuel. Maybe the fact that the engine only produces the same power as a 2 liter turbo engine these days makes a little difference? I’m not familiar with car insurances in the UK.

      2. thesherbet says:

        over here insurance is easily the single biggest cost with owning a car, usually by a long way unless you’ve been driving for a long time and completely clean. I know some first time drivers are paying over £1500-2000 a year for insurance on tiny little cars worth maybe £200. So unfortunately it can be rather prohibitive.

  2. Anonymous says:

    i think its a good idea to start looking for a car to drive around without worrying about the transport fees but i would recommend a old model Land Rover Freelander

  3. Gkirmathal says:

    Rita why don’t you go for a cheap driver as a first car? Owning a car can be a pricey hobby, the bigger the car the heftier most times, unless you’re a technician who can do most of the work before getting the MOT done.

    My own ‘dream’ 4×4 is and will always be a: Lada Niva

      1. xCaptainObviousx says:

        Let me tell you that the purchase price is just a part of the cost of owning a car. “Old” cars (older than 8 years or so) often need a LOT of work done because many of the factory parts are nearing the end of their life.

        I bought my current 2005 Renault Megane for ~2000 pounds and so far I’ve spent that amount again on things like 2 lower suspension arms (the ball joint wore out and failed the MOT), rear brakes, passenger compartment fan… and that’s not even mentioning the fact that I’ll have to pay an unknown fortune if I ever want the AC to work again.

        Now, I might have bought a lemon but you never know that until you’ve already bought the car. (Note: This car had low mileage, full service history and the previous owner was the head of the emergency service’s vehicle maintenance department so it looked just fine on paper, with only the AC being an obvious fault at the time)

      2. Gladly the owner is not (excuse the word) bullshitting me when it comes to problems, he made sure to give all the tweaks it needs before handing it to me and he will be giving a full detail on the car. Price is lower and Im getting more info than a dealer or a stranger would. It all depends of insurance really… I can afford the vehicle because I’m smart with my money but all goes down to insurance really.

      3. xCaptainObviousx says:

        Still, I advice you to look up the price for spare parts and common repair prices before you buy it. Some cars are cheap to buy because the spare parts cost a fortune.

      4. I’d be very careful with a car like that Range Rover Rita. The cost of running it, given the fuel consumption would put me off. Even at a half rate it would be more than I’d want to pay and I’m comfortable financially. Vehicle Excise Duty (“car tax”) will be at the maximum rate also. You should heed Jerry’s warning about insurance. First time drivers in the UK pay a lot of it. I once drove a car that was cheaper than the insurance I was paying on it and I was over 50. As for small cars, when it comes to driving instruction most Schools of Motoring will have small hatchbacks.

      5. Lunatic from Minsk says:

        If you believe you will never have to repair its automatic transmission, suspension etc, just think this 2nd gen RR will eat around 20 l of fuel, not saying it should be 98 octane. Check the price for its huge tyres, check the price for its brake elements. Whether it is a car from the previous century or not, its service costs will sooner or later kill your budget. You should have either a heart or a good reason to buy an aging monster like this.

      6. Greg says:

        It will be the insurance rita that will kill you olus the 15mpg there is other options you should consider toyotas nissan qashqai amost them is 1500 your budget?

      7. Its less the cost of the vehicle, its the ability to insure it, I worked in insurance for over ten years and know that many insurers will not touch a new driver on anything with and engine much above 2000cc, yet alone a 4600cc one! Its a very high insurance group too, again, often you need to be 30 or so for many companies to insure you on them. Then comes the big ‘but’ and that is price. You can get insurance, but depending on how long you have held a license the cost can be really high. A basic 1000cc several year old car can cost the best part of £2000 per year, and the companies that will insure really young drivers with large cars in a high group rating will often charge £5000 per year or more for doing so, because there are so few who will do so they can effectively charge what they like, and because most of their customers are either companies or rich people to whom that sort of cash doesnt matter. It will help if you aready have a full Portuguese license, as anything from in the EU will count towards time you have held a full license not just the time with a UK one.

  4. Katya Aleksandra Hogson says:

    It depends, we got an excellent Toyota Previa 4×4 for around £800, Technically it’s a 7 seater people carrier but it is very versatile, reliable and suprisingly very fast with good acceleration.

  5. He may not have had problems with it yet, but I’ve never known a RR that was ever reliable. When they work they’re lovely but.. they are the devil.
    Also, I don’t know how you’ll afford fuel for it in the UK. Let alone insurance as a new driver.

    1. Deathstryke666 says:

      Concur. Not generally reliable, and costly when they break. Eats gas. Find something practical for your first car. This isn’t it.

  6. Onicorn says:

    I’d recommend an old-ish cheap working car that has passed the inspection recently. You don’t want to buy your dream car or something that you really like as your first one, since you’re at higher risk of having some kind of an accident (even a little one can render the vehicle unusable). Anyways, whatever you end up buying, remember to check up on usual faults with the make/model of the car and try to look for them when you get to see the car.

  7. Anonymous says:

    I used to drive for a living and the most durable cars were Toyota and Nissan. Smaller cars will usually be cheaper to operate. The insurance on a Range Rover may come as a shock. The Rovers are very expensive (starting near 40K) in the states and I do not see the UK being cheaper.
    4×4 vehicles tend to get worse mileage and need more maintainance. Good luck with your car search and glad to hear Crystalline is doing better.

    1. I’m not a 100% on this yet. But I’m chosing a bigger car because I’m used to drive bigger things than a RR…. I’m scared of taking a small car, I know I most likely will get hurt in it. The owner is asking for 1500pounds only, a symbolic price for a friend. And thanks.

  8. Michael Bain says:

    I have a 2002 Range Rover. It is a great car, but there are a few things you should be aware.
    1. Fuel mileage is bad, I get about 12mpg, maybe more on the highway. Very heavy car, will also go through brake pads. Of course, you win in an accident with a heavier car.
    2. It has an air suspension, which can be prone to leaking as it ages. There are aftermarket kits to get rid of the air suspension. But I find that it is one of the charms …
    3. One of the weaknesses is leaking in the heater core. That is solved by replacing some o-rings, IIRC, and there is a way to do it without removing the dash.

    I love the huge windows and being able to tower over the other vehicles. I tinted my windows and put larger mud tires on it. Only put a few thousand miles a year on it (it is at 85k) because I mainly ride motorcycles, but it has been a good car.

    1. xCaptainObviousx says:

      As an immature trucker, I love locking eyes with SUV drivers and watching them shrink into their seats when they realize that they’re not the biggest dog around 🙂

  9. Anonymous says:

    UMM looks like it rolled over the roof from the factory.
    I’d reccomend getting a turd car that uses little fuel and is reliable.

      1. sturmi0545 says:

        so, double confirmation that you need it 🙂
        off to a kickstarter-crowdfunding-thingy!!! Rita needs a ride!! 🙂

  10. Also, I am sure there is a website like in the UK. Good reviews on cars new and used. It also has a total cost to own calculator that factors in costs like average repairs, insurance, running costs in addition to payments. I highly recommend you find something like that before you buy.

  11. Steve says:

    You are looking at a money pit with that series of Range Rover, and if only 4×4 will do a 2007 onwards Toyota RAV4 or a Suzuki Jimny are the way to go for ability combined with reliability, the tiny Jimny being one of the very best off-roaders you can buy. As a first car though I’d recommend a Ford Fiesta, boring but good.

  12. Anonymous says:

    I remember my first car, an ’87 Honda Civic. Leaked oil like crazy, but it was a fighter. Now I’m stuck driving a boring Cadillac…

  13. Str0nkTenk says:

    Range rover is a bad choice for a new driver, Rita.
    You need something small and economical, as well as cheap on insurance to start with.
    There’s plenty of those around, 50+ mpg, easy to drive, cheap to fix etc.
    Plenty of blokes here with years of driving experience will tell you the same.
    Surprised jingles hasn’t pointed you away from a range rover.

    Good luck!

    1. Im afraid of small cars… dont forget My sole driving experience as an adult has been APCs and Tanks. Small cars freak me out and I know that will brain fart in one and end up hurt.

      1. Rita dear, you eighter can drive, or you can’t. A good driver only needs wheels, steering, engine , brakes, an a few hours to get used to the vehicle. I’ve driven from small daewoo matiz thingies to mini busses, and all you need are good reflexes an attention. If you don’t believe me, go to a driving school, an take a few hours to try out different cars, it won’t cost you much, but it will give you valuable insight. And some self confidence 😉 .

  14. Anonymous says:

    What you need is a smart car, they are very reliable German cars (Daimler benz helps make them, so they are from a tank building company) they are very safe, and very fuel efficient. I drive one myself and it runs amazingly. They are very cheap too.

  15. Panzer Fenris says:

    First of, steer far, far away from that Range Rover. They have some of the lowest reliability ratings in the world, and do mind that while luxury vehicles drop in price, the cost of servicing, parts and otherwise keeping it going are not. That’s before we even touch upon insurance.

    If “start it up and go where you need to be” is on the top list of your priorities, this is going to be the very worst vehicle for that, and I’m leaning towards the same being the case for the UMM although I don’ have much experience with those. Scarcity of parts, skilled mechanics and rough treatment by previous owners are not on your side.

    If you’re dead set on a 4×4/SUV of any kind I would recommend picking up a Subaru Forester or Honda HRV or CRV. They frequently score near the top in the various reliability indexes, and should prove much more reasonable to own.

    Also, while it’s easy to talk about general guidelines for brands and models, there excists lemons of every make and model out there. Whatever you chose, be sure to read up on car buying guides to know what to look for, what to avoid and what to check during the testdrive, and preferably bring a friend that knows their cars. With that I mean someone who is actually a mechanic or work their own cars regularely, not a tirekicker who pretends to know what they’re talking about.

    1. Anonymous says:

      Well what about the indestructible Toyota Hilux? She lives where they are available, and that’s a 4×4 bunker on wheels. It could probably survive a nuke with just lead lining over all the electronics.

      1. Panzer Fenris says:

        It took me roughly 3 months after getting my license til I had to write off a ’99 Hilux. Their reputation as solid vehicles are well deserved, but they are not indestructible. They are also stiff, bouncy and too much of a work-vehicle unless you’re actually a farmer or construction worker.

  16. Captain_Coffin_Filler says:

    NO NO NO, Range Rover, reliability, cost of parts NO NO NO, well known for burning money, 4.6 engine, gulp gulp, insurance won’t even give you a quote, my nephew 22yrs, 2006 1.2 Nissan Micra, first car, £2300 !!!!.get yourself a Ford Focus, plenty around, cheap parts, good handling, good first car otherwise a Japanese 4×4 for reliability

  17. xCaptainObviousx says:

    I’ll say what some others have already said: get something smaller, safer and more practical at first. You don’t have to get something silly like a Nissan Micra but maybe a Ford Focus or Skoda Fabia. If you want something larger you can’t go wrong with a Ford Mondeo or any Subaru that haven’t been driven like a BTCC car.

    Now, if we want to go all out on something totally unpractical I’ll just tell you to do like me and get a late 1960’s, early 1970’s Opel Kadett B. Small, light car with surprisingly much interior space and a nippy 1.1/1.2l ~50 bhp engine (you could get a larger engine like a 1.7l or 1.9l, but those are a bit rarer). I’ve had to do a bit of maintenance to it over the years but while some parts can be a bit hard to find they are cheap.

  18. projekt941 says:

    Rita once again confirms what most men are afraid to hear from a woman, “BIGGER IS BETTER”.
    Anyway Rita, for that kind of money, from a friend and to top it all it´s a Range Rover!!! Don´t really know why you have any doubts. Go for it.

  19. Anonymous says:

    I think, for the type of car that rita want a Toyota land cruiser of the year 1991 to more or less 1997/98 and 3.0 diesel engine. Don’t know the tax for old cars in uk, and the price range, in portugal they are absurdly expensive

  20. Fábio Machado says:

    I think, for the type of car that rita want a Toyota land cruiser of the year 1991 to more or less 1997/98 and 3.0 diesel engine. Don’t know the tax for old cars in uk, and the price range, in portugal they are absurdly expensive

  21. Shiva says:

    If insurance is not too high, why not buy it?
    If things go to hell, maygbe you can sell it for more than you bought it for 🙂
    + what does Jingles say about this car?

  22. x4253 says:

    Silent reader here. But this caughed my attention.

    RRs are nice, but the upkeep will eat you alive. Let me elaborate:
    – It is heavy: This means it will literally eat tyres and breaks (pads etc.). So they need to be replace at a higher frequency. Also due to the weight, the breaks are bigger dimensioned and the tyres have to be approved for this weight (=more expensive). Don’t make the mistake in buying dubious “Ling-Ling” parts, as they both are the most crucial car for the saftey of you and anybody else on the road.
    – Huge engine: Literally. And this makes it a b**** to work on. Which translates in more chargable hours for the mechanic. And yes, it is thirsty.. very thirsty.
    – Reliablity: RRs are not known to be very reliable. You can be lucky with this one, but i wouldn’t bet on it. It will probably be a money pit.
    – Insurance costs: Call your local car insurance brooker and ask for a quote. Mention that you are a new driver.. you will probably get a slight heart attack when you hear it.

    Common Mistake:
    A big car gives us the impression of being more safe (i am bigger, therefore i am stronger and will survive).
    “There is a war on the streets. You don’t go to war in a Pinto or in a little Volkswagen. You want a tank, you want, you know it, and I told the people there in Detroit: you know, SUVs – you put a machine gun on the top, you’re going to sell them better, you know” (by Clotaire Rapaille)

    If you look at the security aspect only if you crash into another car, then it might be right (simple physics).
    a SUV has a high center of gravity, and it is heavy.
    A high center if gravity is usually not what you want in a car, because the higher it is, the bigger the chance to flip it.
    The weight translates into longer breaking ways.

    General advice:
    Stay away from anything that was a luxury car when it was new. They might cost a fraction of what the first owner paid, but maintenance costs are still the same (if not worse)

    If you really need an SUV, then you might want to look at something more reliable:
    Toyota: RAV4
    Subaru: Forester
    Honda: CRV, HRV
    Mitsubishi: Pajero

    If you open the selection a bit:
    Toyota: Corolla, Previa (4×4, huge, lots of space)
    Subaru (all 4×4): Legacy, Impreza (don’t look at any STi or WRX), Outback or Tribeca
    Honda: Civic, Accord (great car)
    Mitsubishi: Lancer (DON’T look at the Evo)

    You will find plenty of them in the UK, so parts will not be an issue.

    Best advice: Find a car guy who you can take with you when looking at a certain car, to sort out the lemons and to help for the negotiation.

    Good Luck

  23. heldermartins1 says:

    If you forum members wouldnt mind, I would like to say one thing to Rita… in portuguese:

    – Rita, eu tb adoro 4X4. O UMM é e sempre será o meu favorito, juntamente com o Lamborghini L200 (um pedaço de pecado vintage…). Mas, o grande problema dos Range Rovers desse modelo, em TugaLand, sempre foi a transmissão. Mts rótulas, mts folgas, mta perda de óleo.
    Por favor, pensa bem. Caminhos mt acidentados podem por a descoberto problemas que de outro modo nunca apareceriam. Bjinhos e as melhoras da bola de pêlo.

  24. drogo says:

    A 4×4 for your first car, in the UK? LOL good luck getting the 2nd mortgage for the insurance! If you can get 3rd party, f&t for less than 2500 I would be amazed! Going for a 4 wheeldrive subaru forester would be a hell of lot more affordable while still coping very well with farm trails and off roading. Oh and big cars like the RR have much worse safety rating than most of the smaller city cars, this feeling safe thing is just mental not based on reality.

  25. ritinha queres um conselho nao compres range rover pois so dao problemas seja la o modelo que for aconcelho-te a arranjares um toyota pajero sao bastante fiaveis e robustos,tens tambem a daihatsu o modelo rocky ( ha a gasolina e diesel ou feroza (este so a gasolina mas se investires numa conversao para lpg sai em conta e recuperas o valor investido na conversao ao fim de 1 ano) isto e se estas com ideias de para 1 carro um 4×4…se conciderares um carro regular aconcelho-te um carro a diesel dos anos 90 os volhkswagen e seat sao bastante fiaveis e exigem pouca manutençao para nao falar com um deposito fazes bem 900km ou mais dependendo se fores acelera ou nao

  26. Honcho says:

    Never buy a car from friends or family ever! Even though they give you a good price and all.
    Should your car have technical issues, your friend or family might feel bad for giving you a bad car. Or they might fear that other friends or family members might talk about him, telling others how he is such a bad person for selling his old junk car to you and so on.

    Other than that, you might want to get a car thats cheap to maintain and operate.
    Why not get a 4WD road car, like an old Audi 80, 100 or A4 with Quattro. I know they might not be offroad monsters, but they will handle festival parking in muddy fields quite well.

  27. LtTuvok says:

    It’s a nice car, and not sure how UK stands with driving on LPG systems? That would require investment, but in Croatia, LPG is much cheaper than petrol which doesn’t reduce the gas consumption, but it reduces the price of the gas and effectively reduces cost of driving that beast.

  28. Rick B. says:

    RitaG, I have a fair amount of experience with Range Rovers. The older “round” headlight versions are tanks. They are extremely reliable, but you need to care for them daily. Especially the air suspension! Now the newer “module” headlight versions(which I think the one in the photo is) are even more reliable…with one notable exception. ZF built their automatic transmissions. ZF is an excellent company, and the transmission is extremely well made. It’s basically service-free…you don’t even need to check it’s fluid level. Of course…you CAN’T check it’s fluid level, because I believe yours is a “sealed” unit. The only negative point is that if it goes…you’re going to buy another transmission.
    I live in the U.S. When my ZF failed, I had the Rover taken to the Seatlle L.R. dealership. After testing, they consulted their repair manuals for transmission issues. There was one sentence…”Replace transmission”!!
    Now I’m not trying to scare you…I’d buy a ‘Rover in a heartbeat if one was to come on the market at a decent price here in Georgia, where I now live. And it sounds as if your new friend has a solid well-maintained truck he’s offering you. I say go for it, but do it with eyes open! You’ll absolutely LOVE driving a Range Rover. You sit up high, they’re very well-mannered, and have the power, the maneuverability, the acceleration, and the braking to get you out of any trouble you’ll manage to find!!

    Unless of course you’re tailgating a Centurion…then it’s all on you!

  29. everdynn says:

    Simple rule for cheap cars: they will drive you mad.

    Recommendation from a petrol head: get an entry level mass production car with petrol engine, as they are most reliable. The car is ideally three years old, so it lost most of its value already but everything still works fine. Buy it from a dealer, who gives you at least a year of warranty. Go with a small 4 cylinder engine, not more than 75hp per litre cubic capacity. No turbo chargers, no 6 or 8 cylinders – just a simple petrol engine. Very reliable cars are VW despite being super boring or any Toyota, Skoda, Seat etc.

    Former luxury cars (LandRover, Audi, BMW, Mercedes) will kill you from a financial point of view and tend to break down as their electronics age quickly

  30. Dalroi says:

    Insurance for that as a new driver will be mind blowing, and fuel consumption terrible. Also, unless things changed since I left the UK there’s an MOT ( roadworthiness certificate ) that you have to get done on cars over 3 years old every year. That’s basically a ransom note from the garage to pay them for anything they can find wrong. Anyone driving an RR is clearly rich to them, so unless you find a decent garage you’ll get stung every year fixing anything that’s even slightly wrong to them. Most old cars I owned over there cost more to get their MOT up to date each year than to actually run the things. Side note on insurance: If you can get away with a restricted number of miles driven each year then you can get a discount. Also you could look into options to get a tracker put in your vehicle that talks to the insurance company – some will offer this and give you a discount since they can see that you’re not speeding and doing super-fast start/stops etc, it also measures G-forces on turns to see overall driving. Some people hate the thought of that, big brother etc, and rightly so in my opinion, but if the insurance is staggering otherwise that could be an option if you only use the vehicle for getting to and from tank meets and not driving like a 17 year old boy.

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