Good day everyone,
Brief, but neat, bit from supertest: The Super Conqueror. In case you don’t know what this is, it is a British Conqueror with a historical spaced armor layout (the turret at least), the rendering of which we linked to a few months back. From the supertest card, it is looking to be a new Tier X. Whether that will be an alternative to the FV215b or some form of clan reward has yet to be announced in any official capacity, though some are saying it may be a replacement in the same way the Foch B replaced the Foch 155, with the original remaining as a special vehicle:
- Tier X
- HP: 2,350
- Weight: 73t
- Engine Power: 950hp
- Power to Weight: 13.01 hp/t
- Speed: +34.3/-12 kph
- Hull Traverse: 26 ° / s
- Turret Traverse: 32 ° /s
- Hull Armor: 152/76/38 mm
- Turret Armor: 279/89/70
- View Range: 400m
- Signal Range: 782.1m
- Gun: 120mm L1A1
- DMG: 400/400/515
- Penetration: 259/326/120 mm
- DPM: 2691.2
- Reload: 9.3 sec.
- Accuracy: 0.33
- Aim Time: 2 seconds
- Depression/Elevation: -7/+15 deg.
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it’s Super Conqueror!
Sexy
Sexy
Just make this the new T9 and give us the chieftain instead!
Why do you all want the chieftain? If you want a tank that has not enough armour to be a heavy and is to slow to be a medium why don’t you try out the T110E5.
The chieftain deserves a whole new line. Really. I did some research and there could be heavies at least from tier V to tier X
Tier V – Valiant (maybe with buffed stats or canadian’s prototype guns 40 and 57mm)
Tier VI – Super excelsior (Excelsior with 152mm armor and 17 pdr gun)
Tier VII – Churchill avre 165 (L9 – 165mm howitzer on churchill VII)
Tier VIII – FV429 heavy/medium tank with cleft turret (something like swedish’s Emils and american 105mm gun (don’t know what, could be same as on T29/T32 or that one on T54E1 – but the british one is autoloader (don’t know if something like IS-3A or 2/3/4 shot
Tier IX – FV4201 – quite low armor but good angles – 127mm mybe 200-260mm effective – chieftain prototype
Tier X – Chieftain
On lower tiers could be tanks like: Independent A1E1, A7, A20 Prototype, Tog I, Vickers Command or Vickers 6 ton
maybe even have Vickers MBT branching off from FV 429 or something. Just a thought
Never happen, but keep on dreaming.
Apparently it was planned to mount the Green Mace gun on the Chieftain chassis…
I don’t think a 28 round 105mm autoloader with 96 rounds per minute would quite fit in with the game balance though.
FINALLY
I thought the Super Conqueror was a fake created by Listy?
Let me rephrase that. As far as I can tell, the term ‘Super Conqueror’ was coined by Listy and never referred to anything official, just a Conqueror with upgrades. It also seems the photos in the linked article refer to something used for static target practice (as mentioned by Listy himself in http://overlord-wot.blogspot.nl/2015/09/paper-work.html) and was never intended for anything in combat.
There was also a modified turret to go with the spaced armour. There was a sketch I saw. Don’t know if it is the same as the turret that you mention. I think that one was used for ballistic testing. (i think it is the same one but it could be somthing differnet too)
The sketch in your link in fact 😀 (should have clicked first)
Here is what Listy had to say:
http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/81183-pull-up-a-chair-updated-141013/page__st__13120__pid__11577106#entry11577106
So, it’s basically a real hull with a paper turret. I think I’m fine with that.
No, actually the only fake thing on it is its name. The designation “Super Conqueror” was never used in any document. IRL it’s basically just a Conqueror with experimental 20 mm applique armor on it. The extra armor didn’t really give much protection but it weighed down the already heavy vehicle, so they never started to manufacture these in numbers.
Nope they have historical files
They have official documents mentioning ‘Super Conqueror’ as an actual designation? Would you care to share with us where?
Oh… super conquer… that name never existed… but files for upgraded package is what i was referring to
Ah, ok.
They said that what they didi to the Foch 155 would be done again.
I’m gessing that the will do that with the FV215B that will become a special tank and you will get the Super Conqueror as the normal one.
Freaking finally. What is that turret though, it’s completely symmetrical and doesn’t look like the one Dave Lister found.
nvm, it is Listy’s turret.
actually, it isn’t. Well, not completely anyway. There are multiple differences:
– Turret roof
– Minor difference in the cupola
– Gun Mantlet
– unexplained protrusion on the turret side.
This turret is more like a WG hybrid of the Conqueror turret currently in-game and the Listy’s turret. Except for the armor values though with should be 342mm frontally and 177mm on the side which is not the case.
Leave it to WG to pull something out of their ass in place of something historical
Only 7° of gun depression…. Meh
Tbh actual Conqueror could only fire at -5.5
Do you expect every tank in game to have 10+ degrees on gun depression?
Erm…. yes?
I want it !! it looks pretty nice ! the turret design is really interesting , i love it !
Uhm comparing this to the fv215b, since when is the 215b OP? Like this is quite a bit worse in a lot of ways…
Interesting but there still exist a problem: conqueror and Foch players get a free tank, and us waffentreager e100 players got nothing.
I think the fact that the WTF auf E100 was broken OP and the fv215b and especially the foch are shit counts for a lot in that. They aren’t taken out because they aren’t balancable, they are taken out because there are better replacements.
They said in a recent video (Developer Diaries) that they will try to leave as many top tier tanks for current owners along their new counter parts as possible, but that does not apply to particularly toxic tanks (vide WT auf E100).
So this is going to replace the FV215b?
Worse gunhandling than the t9 Conqueror? Why?
So, making “special vehicles” is the new trend now for WG ?
I guess it is another way for them to make some extra moneys. I assume like the Foch155 quite a lot of people will buy gold to transfer free experience before the deadline.
Hats off to the person who came up with that idea.
The Vickers MBT or the Vijayanta is a viable T10 option
What are the EFFECTIVE armor values for the hull ? Cause it’s 152mm now, but there’s a blue plate over it.
Altogether, the bloom nerfs (the bloom on Conq is ALREADY ridiculous) are just stupid.