Swiss Q&A #2 the answers

Thanks to everyone for asking questions. I hope i can give you a better insight into the Swiss tech tree with my answers.

Here we go:


-Would you consider Austrian tanks as premiums in a tech tree?

-Also, are there any Austrian tanks that could be fitted into the Swiss tree?

Since the Saurer RK-9 is gonna be the tier 1 tank in order to prevent another Renault FT to be the tier 1 tank. It should be possible for WG to add the SK-105, however i have no power or knowledge over where WG will add the SK-105, in the swiss tree it could either be a premium tier 8 TD or maybe a tier 10 light tank alternative in case the swiss tier 10 light tank would be rejected. The other option is that WG throw it into the german tree or a standalone premium. Only time will tell.


-What would be the pre tech tree premium for the Swiss tanks?

-Will they bring a Swiss Premium out before the Swiss tech tree. That being asked, what tank would be a worthy premium to give a taste of what’s to come?

Personally i have suggested the Laupen 14t as a pre tech tree premium, what WG does with that suggestion is up to them. But it would be a no brainer as it would be the perfect and only fit for tier 6.


-What premiums do you see as feasible in the med line and heavy line

For the medium line we’d have: Laupen 14t at tier 6, Laupen 16t Autoloader at tier 7, Lansen Variante C at tier 8 ( sorry SP15, it wasn’t me who came up with that but it’s the only feasible tier 8 premium medium tank option) and for our dear CW friends we’d have Panzer 61 AA9 at tier 10 ( Panzer 61 AA9 is a Panzer 61 upgraded to Panzer 68 standards but still with it’s old engine and tracks)

And the heavy line would have the Tiger II, likely at tier 7, maybe tier 8.


-Since the “german” tier 8 premium medium tank, Panzer 58 Mutz is technically swiss, any chance we’ll be seeing a regular version in the swiss tech tree? (maybe the one with the 20 pdr gun?)

-As in the past, tanks of a certain nation (to be introduced) have existed in other tech trees (usually as captured or lend-lease tanks) ( i.e. the Matilda IV in the Russian tree and the German H35). Now, we have the Panzer 58 Mutz in the German tree; is this a justification for a Swiss tree?

-In addition, will this tree have its own Panzer 58 option?

I do not know what will happen to the German Panzer 58, however knowing what happened to previous trees and pre existing tanks of that nation (Churchill, Matilda, Panzer T-25) i think the Panzer 58 would stay in the german tree. However Switzerland will have it’s own Panzer 58 variation: The real Panzer 58 prototype with a different suspension as the second prototype and all production vehicles. This vehicle is known as KW 30/57 and is the regular swiss medium tank.


-So…what’s gonna be the Swiss colour?

Since WG loves it black, I’ll propose a black paint. Schattenschwarz to be exact.


-Why the Swiss tech tree? Surely the Italian tech tree is the next logical step?

Since i really liked NDIVER’s answer i’m gonna post that one instead:

Because the Italian tree has lot of unique low tier tanks but terribly lacks of unique hier tiers that are not clones or directly derived of German / American tanks (top tiers would be Panther, Pershing, and derived from M47 Patton and the Leopard with autoloader IS-3A-like), contrary to the Swiss tree that has clones / derived only in the first tiers.


-How can you get Wargaming to listen to this proposal? In my opinion, the trees seem to be structured well, and I feel there would be sufficient interest from the player base towards Swiss tanks. What is the next step? Perhaps to contact Wargaming? If they rebuff you, the interest shown on this website alone should be reason enough for them to even consider this tech tree as a possibility.

Who said that WG didn’t already know, paid me for my research and have all the data for the Medium line? 🙂 My goal with these articles and the Q&A is it to push WG to hurry up and release non premiums for a change.


-Why would someone need the Swiss Tanks when they never participated in a War so they never were in usage?

It isn’t a requirement for nations to have fought in wars, if that would be a factor then we’d have never seen the Swedish tree in WoT. And besides, having an army with Tanks makes it harder to invade, no matter if the nation is neutral or not.


-With the Swedish tech tree receiving tank destroyers, lights, mediums and heavies but no artillery what is the chance of seeing a Swiss arty line?

As far as i am aware, Sweden should get a SPG line as well. As for Switzerland’s SPG line, one is technically possible but whether WG is eager to add any SPGs in the future is unknown.

-Is there any tank destroyer that can fit the tier 2 slot in your proposal?

Not directly, one option would be to cheat a little and take the Carden Loyd Mk. VI which the switzerland used and replace the MG11 with a 4.7 cm AT gun. But that isn’t an urgent problem nor is there a need for a tier 2 TD so if the players really want one, there would be a solution, which is not historically accurate though.


-I see there are a lot of unique Swiss tanks that could be implemented. Is WG likely to add a Swiss tree in your eyes? Would an Italian tree or Polish tree still have priority over the Swiss even though neither of those nations can really even make a single unique line?

-Do you think any new nations are in the foreseeable future at all? Maybe new lines to existing tech trees have priority, such as Sweden?

There are rumors that either Italy or Poland could come in 2018, i can not confirm that though as I have no insight in the WoT development.


-Can you make a basic tech tree diagram of your proposed lines

Already working on it, and it’s gonna be more than just basic. 😉


-A Swiss tech tree is possible, but how unique would it be? Would Swiss tanks play similarly to German or Swedish tanks? The Swiss seem to promote high firepower but, when it comes to the armor, it’s pretty lackluster on some designs.

Besides that, just for curiosity, will they speak Hochschweizdeutsch or simply Schweizdeutsch? Swiss German differs quite a lot from the normal German, so it would be a shame to not have Swiss crews use their own national dialect.

The playstyle for the Mediums would be similar to that of Germany and Japan, good mobility while still having armor that can bounce.

The Light tanks would play similarly to the German ones.

The Heavy tanks would be similar to that of the Chieftain.

TDs would have a very german line as well with decently armored TDs with average mobility at low and mid tier and Kanonenjagdpanzer like tanks on high tiers.

And the Swiss SPG line would play just like any other SPG line, they would just be turreted from tier 7 and up.

As for what language they’ll speak, hopefully they bother to record new voice lines for Switzerland, and then it really depends from what part of switzerland the VAs comes. While Switzerland officially has 4 national languages, if you’d ask a swiss he’d say there are 26, one for each canton.

Just to show my point, here’s a song that shows it pretty well.


-You said the Laupen 30t is basically the first design of the KW30 ? Do you mean that it should be considered ingame as element of the KW30, like the suspension giving Laupen 30t –> KW30 ? (same for the turret)

The Laupen 30t does not exist, the only Laupen tanks that did exist were 14t and 16t. What you likely mean is KW30/ 1950.


-Would it be possible to have the Laupen 16t as a medium, and the Laupen 14t as a high tier light tank (an equivalent to the LTTB or M41 Bulldog) ? Or the opposite ?

Both of them would be mediums due to the reason mentioned farther up in the Q&A, it is a crucial part of the whole prerelease premium problem. However the swiss light tank line is already fleshed out and has some interesting vehicles. We even have a swiss built tier 8 premium light tank.


-Would you consider in a tree an interbranch link like G-13 -> Laupen 16t?

There will be some for sure, however they won’t be go from TD to medium, but rather the opposite.


-Would you make the secondary branches starting from the tier 8 or from the tier 9?

They’ll start from tier 8.


-Any idea of the Panzer 68 Lamborghini is related to the NkPz? (the hull look relatively similar)

There is no mention of the NKPz in the Panzer 68 Lamborghini, it is likely that the NKPz based its design of the Lamborghini. I’d have to do more research, it could also be a coincidence that they have almost the same design.


-I’ve been surprised when i saw the first blueprints and 3D models of the differences in term of frontal shape for the turrets of the VFZ 69 between the blueprints and wood models. Any hints why? Bad mockup?

As i have never made a wooden mockup of anything it’s hard to tell, but my guess is that it’s not that easy making a wooden mockup of a tank which is shaped like that.


-No relationship at all between the KW30 / Panzer 58 and Indien Panzer ? Pure convergence in term of design?

Yeah i have no idea where the myth came from that KW30/ Panzer 58 is based of the Indien Panzer. I can say with certainty however that it’s completely wrong. Swiss designers didn’t look at the Indien Panzer, but rather at the M48 patton for the design of Panzer 58.


-Is the 15cm Haubitze 42/46 auf Panzer 58 the same as the Panzerkanone 61?

Not at all, it’s a 15 cm Gun mounted on the chassis of the Panzer 58. And the Panzerkanone 61 persé doesn’t exist, there was the Panzerkanone 68 on the chassis of a Panzer 61, but that vehicle is still called Panzerkanone 68.


-Is the Panzerkanone 61 really a SPG (the famous ‘earlier prototypes were on the Panzer 61 chassis’) or just a misunderstanding concerning a gun?

See above.


-No Panzerhaubitze 66/74 as second tier 10 SPG in your tree?

No, we rather use the gun of the Panzerhaubitze 66/74 as the top gun for Panzerhaubitze 66.


-Is the H+W 15t related to the Laupen tanks?

Same situation as with KW 30 1950, no it isn’t. Even though they’re designed at pretty much the same time, they have nothing in common.


-For the artys, you put the 10,5 cm Selbstfahrhaubitze AMX 13 in Tier VI

And the 15cm Selbstfahrkanone Panzer 51 in Tier VII

It is possible to exchange the places of these two artys in the third parties?

Yeah i’ve already swapped them, not we wave Non turreted SPGs followed by turreted SPGs


-I read that there would be a Kanonenjagpanzer HS-30, a TD version of the HS-30 with its barrel mounted in the Hull. Is it true? If so, can it be used on WOT?

It can be used in WoT, however it would be a german vehicle as it was built in germany and we have no need for it.


-Can you make an article about premium tanks?

Wargaming is above all a company, and it is a part of its money on premiums,

can you make an article to talk about the tanks you prefer to see in premium?

Rather than let WG do and risk a crappy stuff …

I could indeed work on an Article like that. Didn’t know people actually want to hear about more premiums considering that’s all that WG does lately. Pump out premium tanks.

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Swiss Q&A #2 the answers

10 thoughts on “Swiss Q&A #2 the answers

  1. RAD FROOD 25 says:

    Seriously good answers, tbh from a console perspective I’d rather have these than the mercenary line. They all look and sound like a fun grind

  2. phdrvrba says:

    God I hate the “what will be the playstyle” questions on these proposals. It’s new tanks to fight with and against, no goddamn style needed ffs >_>

  3. Kanonia says:

    I can’t wait to see Swiss tanks in WoT. Honestly, I think they’re more interesting than Italian/Polish tanks personally, and I really want to see Swiss cheese on the consumables list.

  4. ndiver says:

    Thanks for taking the time to reply to all these answers (including the many I had) and debunking some points on Swiss tanks 🙂

  5. Anonymous says:

    Language and an austrian premium tank: In that case WG would have to record also different voice lines for austrian german for only one tank, because the accent is different and Schweizerdeutsch wouldn’t fit in there at all. Both would sound quiet hilarious probably 😛

  6. PUNISHER989 says:

    That warm feeling you get when your question makes in into the Q&A.
    and your answer that you is what you want to hear.

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