Slightly more detailed stats for the Tier V light tanks after the rework. As always, these are preliminary and subject to change. Also, yes, the M7 is looking to be a light tank now.
M7
Tier V
HP: 350
Engine power: 460
Weight: 24.32 t
Power to weight ratio: 18.92
Speed: + 60 / -20 kph
Hull Traverse: 48 ° / s
Turret Traverse: 48 ° / s
Terrain Resistance: 0.767 / 0.863 / 1.63
Hull Armor: 38.1 / 33.3 / 31 mm
Turret Armor: 50/31/31 mm
View Range: 380 m
Signal Range: 776.9 m
Crew: 4
Gun: 75mm M3
DMG: 110/110/175
Penetration: 92/127/38 mm
DPM: 1433.9
Rate of fire: 13.036
Reload: 4.603 sec
Accuracy: 0.364
Aim Time: 1.82 sec
Depression/Elevation: -8 ° / + 18 °
M24
Tier V
HP: 350
Engine Power: 460
Weight: 18.39 t
Power to weight ratio: 25.01
Speed: + 77.2 / -21 km / h
Hull Traverse: 42 ° / s
Turret Traverse: 45.9 ° / s
Terrain Resistances: 0.767 / 0.959 / 1.63
Hull Traverse: 25/25/19 mm
Turret Traverse: 38/25/25 mm
View Range: 390 m
Signal Range: 776.9 m
Crew: 5
Gun: 75mm M17
DMG: 110/110/175
Penetration: 96/143/38 mm
DPM: 1678.7
Rate of fire: 15.261
Reload: 3.932 sec
Accuracy: 0.422
Aim Time: 1.53 sec
Depression/Elevation: -10 ° / + 15 °
AMX ELC bis
Tier V
HP: 320
Engine Power: 250
Weight: 6.6 t
Power to Weight ratio: 37.88
Speed: + 60 / -20 km / h
Hull Traverse: 38 ° / s
Turret Traverse: 44 ° / s
Terrain Resistance: 1,151 / 1,342 / 2,301
Hull Armor: 25/10/15 mm
Turret Armor: 20/15/10 mm
View Range: 360 m
Signal Range: 400 m
Crew: 2
Gun: 75mm SA44L
DMG: 110/110/175
Penetration: 100/129/38 mm
DPM: 1242.3
Rate of fire: 11,321
Reloading: 5,3 sec
Accuracy: 0.4
Aim Time: 2.3 s
Depression/Elevation: -5 ° / + 13 °
T-50
Tier V
HP: 360
Engine Power: 250
Weight: 14.06 t
Power to Weight ratio: 21.33
Speed: + 60 / -20 km / h
Hull Traverse: 48 ° / s
Turret Traverse: 50.1 ° / s
Terrain Resistance: 0.959 / 1.055 / 1.822
Hull Traverse: 37/37/37 mm
Turret Traverse: 37/37/15 mm
View Range: 330 m
Signal Range: 630 m
Crew: 4
Gun: 45mm BT-43M
DMG: 70/70/85
Penetration: 85/120/23 mm
DPM: 2,190
Rate of fire: 31.286
Reload: 1,918 s
Accuracy: 0.384
Aim Time: 1.92 sec
Depression/Elevation: -7 ° / + 25 °
VK.16.02 Leopard
Tier V
HP: 380
Engine power: 585
Weight: 21.44 t
Power to Weight ratio: 27.28
Speed: + 60 / -22 kph
Hull Traverse: 36 ° / s
Turret Traverse: 40 ° / s
Terrain Resistance 0.959 / 1.055 / 2.014
Hull Armor: 50/30/30 mm
Turret Traverse: 50/30/30 mm
View Range: 360 m
Signal Range: 730 m
Crew: 4
Gun: 30mm MK 103A
DMG: 30/30/40
Penetration: 95/110/15 mm
DPM: 1,177
Rate of fire: 39.232
Reload: 0.143 sec
Magazine Reload: 16.781 s
Magazine Capacity: 12 pcs
Accuracy: 0.46
Aim Time: 1.7 s
Depression/Elevation: -10 ° / + 20 °
So they really mean it with ELC? 90mm gun was historical btw.. (unlike like 70% guns on other tanks in WoT?)
If the gun was kept, the ELC would need to be t6, and it would not fit their plan for the french line.
But yes, goodby french lt capable of 1v1 any tank in their tier.
I wonder if we will ever see a full British light tank line. Did the Brits really not produce any tanks that would fit the bill?
Short answer: yes.
Longer answer: There is plenty of British stuff for a Lt line and WG say they are planning one, however don’t hold your breath. Going by their repeated non introduction of the Chieftain I would say its on a similar Havok like timeline.
Let’s throw the scorpion tank on. Tier 5 with a 76 would fit perfectly
M24 went from .35 accuracy to .42 (only real change) while the M7, which gets better camouflage and way better gun stats, goes from .44 to .36 (WG admits it was under powered as crap). With these changes, how does the crusader fit into this? It wont be changed a bit?
Seen the new t37? now thats a joke
The crusader is a medium tank with light tank camouflage mechanics. The crusader doesn’t get scout match making which is why it isn’t called a scout. The difference between scout tanks and light tanks is subtle but to help you swallow the idea, the majority of tier 1-3 tanks are light tanks but not scout tanks necessarily. Scout tanks only start at tier 4 with select light tanks getting scout match making. Hope that makes sense but really, the crusader is too slow and doesn’t have the view range to effectively scout. It really is just a sneaky medium tank.
I just call non-scout LT’s (like the crusader) “Combat Light’s” as they dont tend to have the highest speeds for LT’s and are supposed to be duking it out with other tanks unlike Scout LT’s whose main role is to scout.
Hmm, I’m grinding the M7 at the moment and the M3 gun sucks donkey bollocks. The 6 pdr is way better (at the moment), i wonder if they’ll remove the 6 pdr too?
Crusader is underperforming, but WG will not admit it unless they are buffing it next patch. It’s just the way they do things.
The crusader will be fine with the new lights
Why the M7 nerf, though?
Anyone noticed the insanely high DPM on the T50???
WTF?!? Especially when compared to all the other tanks there…
It has absolutely terrible view range so it cant really scout effectively. It seems balanced to me, DPM is only thing going for it over other lights
The T50 only has 85mm AP pen, gonna cost a lot of money to run it with the amount of acpr that 45mm gun will need!
Hmm true, but you have to consider that aim time and dispersion aren’t that bad too… And when it’s top tier it will have absolutely no problems with it’s penetration as well!
Imagine tier 3 and 4 getting mown down by this little Tank…
Maybe it should get a high DPM to compensate for it’s weaknesses, but almost 2200? Seems WAY to much for Me
Who knows how much ammo it can carry? Maybe it can only hold 50 shells….
My guess : Light tanks with normal MM won’t change, like the crusader, the covenanter, the T-80, etc. Mostly, only tanks with scout MM will change. So expect some news about tier 4 lights with scout MM too, like the T-50 who went from “tier 4 scout MM” to “tier 5 normal MM”, and the Luchs, with a more than probable nerf, cuz it won’t go into tier 7 anymore. It won’t be OP when top tier anymore. The tier 4 light chinese tank will be probably nerfed too for the same reason.
NONONONONONONONONONONONO. NEINEINEINEINEINEINEINEINEINEIEN. FUCK NO, IF THEY CHANGE THE ELC I QUIT THIS FUCKING GAME. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same
“Maybe it should get a high DPM to compensate for it’s weaknesses, but almost 2200? Seems WAY to much for Me” – DPM is only DPM if its effective – low Pen means thats not 2200 effective-DPM, but rather much less unless you spam premium rounds
I may have to rebuy the M7, and the change to a light tank will make crew training much easier.
To be honest the M7 is one of those tanks that’s hard to classify, both in RL and in game.
Changing it to a light tank (it is a overgrown Stuart to be fair) should be a good thing for it.
As for the rest..I don’t know, if they only get +2mm (knock on wood) they should be all right.
Hardly spectacular, and yes I am going to miss that 90mm on my much loved ELC, but all right.
And no I won’t be selling my ELC just yet even with these changes. 😛
Good for you, by the way they are keeping the 90mm gun 😉
elc is just another LT. no unique characteristic anymore. they could just push it to tier6
It’s alpha is the highest among tier 5 LTs, MTs and HTs (same as bdr g1b). I think it will play more like a T49, with the bonus that it is fxxxxxx hard to hit
M7 with the small pea shooter is one the most fun tanks in the game. Completely OP when top tier. Gold spam if not. The only tank that i have 3rd MoE.