First of all, I and Mizutayio would like to wish Switzerland an happy birthday aka national holiday!
Author: Mizutayio
I am sure a couple of you guys know or have heared about the HS 30 with the 90mm gun and the MOWAG Pirat Tank destroyer.
There are very few pictures about these tanks. Infact you might have seen them already.
HS 30
MOWAG Jagdpanzer Pirat (early)
Jagdpanzer Pirat (late)
Didn’t help that these Tanks don’t come with much information, so during my many archive visits i went looking for these Tanks as well. And what I’ve found was more than just Interesting.
There was a Document within the Archives that did cover the Trials of the MOWAG Pirat and the HS 30 compared to the Panzer 51 ( AMX 13 75) that also came with a lot of Pictures and Specifications.
Now before i’ll show the Pictures i have to say something: While in my earlier Articles most people didn’t mind, some people got angry about me putting watermarks on the Pictures with the reason being that I didn’t take the Original Pictures back in the 50s or 60s. And that they were to big. I did change the big watermarks, but i can’t do without since it’s either me who went to the archives in Person or WG/ some other guys on the internet who then claim that it’s theirs.
Well that being said here are the Pictures followed by the Specifications
Tank number 1 Mowag Pirat, 3 + 4 HS 30
Comparison of gun depression between MOWAG Pirat ( front) HS 30 (middle) and Panzer 51 (rear)
Mowag Pirat and HS 30 with Max Elevation and Depression
Comparison of the HS 30 with the Panzer 51
Panzer 51 and HS 30 from the Front 
Rear view
Another HS 30 picture from the Rear
HS 30 at maximal depression
HS 30 at maximal elevation
Mowag Pirat turret facing left
Turning the Turret
Turret facing right
Mowag Pirat compared to Panzer 51 sideview
Front
Rear
Specifications:
HS 30:
Length 5600 mm (5510 mm without gun)
Width: 2510 mm
Heighth: 2440 mm
Weight: 13.5 tons
Ground Pressure Offroad: 0.62 kg/cm²
Ground Pressure Onroad: 14 kg/cm²
Links per Track: 90
Track Width: 350 mm
Engine: 8 cylinder Rolls Royce – Petrol engine
Bhp: 240 hp
HP/ton ratio: 17.8
Top Speed: 60 km/h
Armor f/s/r: 30/15/10
Turret f/s/r: 30/15/10
Gun: 9cm Pak. 57
Elevation 23°
Depression 15°
Secondary Arnarment: 12.7 mm MG for Rangefinding mounted on Gun
MOWAG Pirat:
Length: 5360 mm
Width: 2410 mm
Heigth: 2430 mm
Weigth: 12 tons
Ground Pressure offroad:0.56 kg/cm²
Ground Pressure onroad: 8-10 kg/cm²
Links per track: 87
Track Width: 350mm
Engine: 8 cylinder Chrysler or Ford – Petrol engine
Bhp: 240 hp
HP/ton ratio: 20
Top speed: 60 km/h
Armor f/s/r: 20/15/15
Turret f/s/r: 20/15/10
Gun: 9cm Pak. 57
Elevation 23°
Depression 15°
Secondary Arnarment: 12.7 mm MG for Rangefinding mounted on Gun
As you can see, both are very good tanks just by looking at them, why they didn’t get produced in great numbers i don’t know. but In World of Tanks we’d likely see the HS 30 as a Tier 7 light scout tank and the Mowag Pirat as a tier 8 light scout tank.
If you guys have any questions about these tanks, let me know in the Comments. and i’ll try to answer them to the best of my abilities.
With all those Alps going on it’s no surprise they Swiss Army Tanks had great gun depression. Also a corkscrew, screwdriver and pair of scissors.
Are people seriously whining about watermarks? A watermark does not mean someone claims right of ownership unless it specifically includes a copyright, watermarks are simply used to show authenticity and stop people from copying the picture. People need to learn the difference.
Good set of photos, any chance of seeing these in the game?
There’s a rather high chance actually
@Shade i am actually Swiss, which does count to Europe.
Read the European Watermark law… Jesus
The author isn’t European, so he wouldn’t fall under EU jurisdiction.
Aright my mistake then
I hope the Swiss tanks come soon, same with the Swedish. But I’m not excited about Poland. 8/10 tanks will be Soviet Copies.
I knew absolutely nothing about Swiss armored weapons before these articles. You have my personal thanks for these, and so do the other writers that put articles like this (for all the nations) out for me to gain in knowledge. I find great enjoyment in them.
Thank you so much hun! <3
Damn, these tanks has less armour than the Volvo 240
I must say, thank you for listening and at least down sizing watermarks.
Just a note: Be careful where you put watermark, in some cases result is bit… funny. 😉
dat gun depression tho
So what nation would we likely see these tanks appear in? Germany?
Swiss. WG can build a Swiss tree if they wish.
I hope so. But the Pz. 58 Mutz being in the German tree does give some doubt, unfortunately.
i have no doubts at all, considering that, even though there is a T-25 in the gemrna tree they still made the Czechoslovakian tree ( same iwht the french Panzer 38h 735f and Panzer B2 740f were in the german tree before there was a french one)
Looks like AMX 13 has surprisingly decent gun depression as well.
Looks like another SPC 1 with 15 degree gun depression to me.
that’s just how the tanks were like arround that time
Looking at the offroad ground pressure for the MOWAG Pirat it looks like you could potentially survive that thing rolling over you! I wouldnt like to try, but it may be possible!
Whether you are Swiss or not (or a green-blue carrot wit pink spots, for that matter) won’t hinder the EU (look up the terms “EU” and “Europe” to spot the difference) to apply its laws within its span of (legal) influence (look up the bilateral agreements between the EU and its individual member states and Switzerland).
Not that the watermarks bother me at all.
“” First of all, I and Mizutayio would like to wish Switzerland an happy birthday aka national holiday!””
You can beter call it; Independence day
Please wargaming give us this. I need to become…a tank pirate. Arr