Hello,
there’s a new tank in Supertest called VK 65.01 (H), its a tier 5 German HT:
Description:
A heavy tank VK 65.01 (Tier 5 German) designed in early 1939. Was planned to weigh up to 65 tons with 80mm frontal armor, 600hp engine and 75mm short gun as armament. The design went through several stages but by late 1940 it was deemed not practical for logistic reasons and was cancelled.
See also: VK6501 – the forgotten heavy tank by SilentStalker
Statistics:
Tier: 5 HT
Hitpoints: 700
Engine: 600 hp
Weight: 65,0 tons
Power-to-weight: 9,23 hp/t
Maximum speed: 20/20 km/h
Hull traverse: 30 deg/s
Turret traverse: 25 deg/s
Terrain resistance: 0,959/1,151/2,397
Viewrange: 360
Radio range: 646,6
Hull armor: 80/80/?
Turret armor: 80/80/?
Gun: 75 mm KwK L40
Damage: 110/110/175
Penetration: 92/124/38
ROF: 19,554
DPM: 2150,9
Reload: 3,068
Accuracy: 0,364
Aimtime: 1,92
Depression: -10/+20
Armor and Model:
Poor thing, it only has one boob turret.
soo its a german t14, same pen on gun, armor on turret is worst but in the hull its better but its pretty flat
rate of fire is better, but speed is lower, well i have fun on my t14, i would sure have fun in this one too
But where is it ever said that this will be a premium? I do truely hope it will become a regular Tier V somehow, but I kinda doubt it 🙁
Durchbruchswagen 3.0, Tier V edition
This is a British tank, Period
20 km/hr on a german tank… seriosly???
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D.W-2 now has premium version, even the gold shells in the D.W-2 has more pen than this utter garbage
I laugh at the thought of this thing getting tier 7 matches…
if it don’t gets special MM like the T14, then it only use will be to load full HE and track the enemy tanks forever =P
WG seem to have forgotten
now games ecology
O-I EXPERIMENTAL O-1 KV-1 KV-85 KV-2 : delicious meat~~~~
At such poor armour and relatively small size – where are those 65 tons coming from?!
a comparasion from the SilentStalker link Rita posted about the tank to answer your question:
“Tiger: 57 tons, hull length 6m, width 3,7m, height 3m, sides 60/80mm
VK6501: 65 tons, hull length 7m, width 3,2m, height 2,92m, 80mm all around”
“There are tons of things [WG] don’t shows in stats, such as for example the weight of the Maybach engine (the vehicle was longer, yet was supposed to have about the same internal space as Panzer IV, so one can assume the engine was bigger and thus heavier) and other things. The DW turret design was also thickened etc etc etc.”
That still doesn’t really make a great amount of sense to be honest. The engine produces less HP than that of the Tiger and it’s a very similar engine (obviously, both Maybach HL series) so I would be surprised if it were much heavier, if at all. The dimensions are bigger than I thought from the pictures, but still smaller than a Tiger (to stick to that comparison), and at less armour as I said. The gun is also more than half a ton heavier on the Tiger (if WoT is to be trusted, the 88mm L/56 weighs just over 2 tons and the 75mm L/43, which comes closest to what the 65.01 will have, weighs just under 1.5 tons).
If the turret is a thickened DW turret, let’s assume it weighs twice as much as that of the D.W. 2, which would be 3 tons x2, so 6 tons. That’s still 3 tons less than the Tiger turret.
So really, these arguements don’t seem all that sound. (Don’t get me wrong, neither you nor SS decided for the tank to have that in-game weight, so I think this is WG’s mistake, but really, it must be one.)
the engine of the VK 65 need 6,9 cubicmeter space. the engine of the Tiger 4,2 cbm.
so the engine was over 50% bigger than the engine from the tiger.
there are documents from Maybach with said: for every milimeter the engine is longer, the tank will weight 2 to 10kg more ( depends on armor).
so if an engine was 50cm longer the tank woukd weight 1t to 5t more.
to put that mass in perspective the tier 8 american premium the t34 weighs 65 tons yeah and this thing looks about the same size as a pz4hthuat weight makes no logical sense and itd make the t1 heavy seem light in comparison same with the kv220 2
I can make you tank whit poor armor(all 30mm) and weight 100t >), This understand only engineer. I am. >)
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Gun is utter garbage since it wont have pref MM, thats supposed to fight T7s? Ive been hoping for a T5/6 german HT crew trainer for a long time, but if this is what we are going to get ill pass. T14 barely gets away with its gun with pref mm, this wont stand a chance.
i do pretty fine in my t14, same tier matchs 5-8 kills normally, tier 6 matchs at least a high calliber, but if this thing sees tiers 7, its worst than the DW really
5-8 kills with T14 ? Whenever I’m driving my KV-1 or KV-1S, I completely destroy T14s, no matter how many of them are, since their gun can’t even scratch me when I’m angling. Obviously you’re full of bullshit.
As for this piece of crap, I wouldn’t even wipe my ass with this paper tank. Gun is abysmal, no armor at all due to it’s nice flat aspect and the speed, let’s not talk about that.
Or you are. You must be god in a KV then. I wipe my ass with plenty of players in my T14.
T-34-3 and 112 HD
relatively happy (=_=)
What? Elaborate
There is something strange here, this weird thing weights 65 ton, with 80/80/80? armor.. but a tiger 1 with 100/80/80 weights 57 ton… did they put extra fat tankers in there or something? because WG logic doesn’t add up..
after they made the japanese heavy line WG don’t cares anymore if the weight is right or wrong =P
The 65 ton weight comes from the projected weight of the project when design began. For example Tiger I was designated as VK 45.01 (H) but ended up weighing 57 tons. The in-game weight for this tank probably is just taken from the names projected weight and not from actual weight.
its doomed, the t14 is already the worst premium tank. 92 pen at Tier 5 is not enough. u can not damage most tanks at t5 let alone do anything against t6/7
you have no idea, t14 is amazing at tier 5
20 kph….. so a T-14 with worse armor, but much, much slower. This is a joke, a late April fools or something? This is an absurdly bad tank.
you forget to mention the absense of preferential matchamking
Another absolutely shit german tank… Like we dont have dozens of these already… Fuck off biased idiot devs.
You realize they used the real design specifications, right? So much for glorious German engineering…
With this speed and gun and seeing that this won’t most probably get premium MM, WG could maybe downtier this thing, of course coupled with appropriate HP and DPM reduction.
Otherwise it needs to have significantly better pen with these mobility stats. Maybe around 110/160mm? 1 of the planned guns was 7,5 L/40 after all. It seems to have a nice gun mantlet though.
they reversed the premium tank thought.. it’s now prem for them.. when you drive this tank your going to need so much premium shells they are going to earn a lot of gold off of you. 🙂
Actually it only looks small. Its almost same size as a Tiger I. It was also designed to be disassembled into three sections to make loading onto train flatcars easier.
This thing should be put at tier 4 with that gun. It has no business on tier 5.
20 forward, 20 reverse, and seems to have same fear armor as front armor, so you can techically drive this tank arround in reverse without any penalties, if you don’t have time to turn arround for example.
At first look I thought this thing was decent. On second look it looks very painful to play if this sees tier 7. OK armor for a tier 5 Ht but that speed… Hp and that gun will kill this thing. Looks to be a sniper but ATM I’d not buy this at all. Needs more buffs if anything… Keep working on it old WG.
I’ll buy it if it has premium ammo as default ammo (or has current ammo pen buffed to 110++ at least). Otherwise? No thx
Fuck WG Germany cry
WG 121B all servers released !! Still more attractive
One more scrap low tier useless premium tank. No pen, no armor, no speed… WG, please, stop this.
It is 80mm and remember the KV-1 only has 75mm and is one of the best armored tanks at tier 5. The pen would be ok if it got preferential MM but it most likely won’t.
Good armor, slow. Okay, just like all German super heavies. Then the gun…..92 penetration? At least give it the VK 30.01 H’s 75mm gun…
I can live with it being slow and having good armor, but that gun…
How can that tank looking at it’s relative small size possibly be 65 tons in weight?! Baffling. Some people mentioned on here that the gun is awful penetration wise and I have to agree with them. WG policy now states that no tanks with pref mm will be implemented in-game. Fair enough, but why does it have the same pen as the American T14 wich has pref mm??
It seems WG is so scared of introducing OP premium tanks that they simply implement (very) UP tanks and buff them later on. They also state that premium vehicles will never be nerfed only buffed (if they did nerf premiums people would demand compensation which is understandable)
The T14 is quite reasonable with pref mm but the pen can be troublesome vs better armoured tanks like the Kv’s and T150’s etc etc. As it is not for sale anymore and can be a rare sighting for some newbies as they don’t know the weakspots it can be quite trollish (when top tier of course). I have one myself and don’t play it much but I still have a excellent winrate although I’ve only a played handfull of games in it.
Gun: 75 mm KwK L40
Damage: 110/110/175
Penetration: 92/124/38
This alone tells me its doomed to failure if it is a Tier 5 heavy – that 75 mm KwK L40 is a Tier 4 gun and penetration is awful for even Tier 5 never mind Tier 6 or worse Tier 7
why? compare it to a KV1 – which it will see all day and every day at T5 and the KV1 will kill it easy and quick every time
and that’s not even including Tier 6!
where it will simply be ‘farmed for damage’ bye any enemy T6, image a Cromwell running circles around the VK 65.01 (H) farming damage just for fun
T5 – T6 TDs will be farming damage with a big smile seeing this weak tank
and then there is Tier 7 waiting for this poor little blind puppy, lol eh lol o lol!
This thing will dominate the battlefield. Tier 6-7 players will laugh so hard seeing it that they be unable to play and will be flanked with ease. After all, tactical gameplay is what WG is aiming for.
Armour is actually pretty decent due to the excellent side armour — angle it like a KV-1. Speed is complete fucking trash, gun is complete trash, no prem mm, overall tank is trash. Surprise surprise, another mid tier German piece of shit cooked up by WG. They really should stop wasting time and money and prioritise fixing (or preferably removing) arty. It literally kills the entire game. It’s the prime reason for WoT being a shitty game atm
it seems they didnt learn why they had to remove the T14 from giftshop and why they made the excelsior a gift for returning players. Now that they dont do special MM Tanks anymore they now release this machine with 92 pen at T5 with full mm ? XD Analyzing data seems to be very strong at WG
humiliating German tanks
Fuck WG
The only reason why I would want this in the game would be so that we can get our VK 30.01 (H) back as a med tank with that 8.8mm
Ok this thing reminds me of the stug4. WG said they wanted to get rid of preferential MM tanks, while this seems to be a pref-mm tank, so I don’t think they would introduce this as premium for sale, also it’s pretty crappy unlike some recent premiums. However they did introduce the stug4 with pref-mm as an crappy reward tank for personal missions. The 121B is also unlikely to be for sale, since it is a tier10, and at least up to now tier10 premiums have not been for sale (I concede that WG could make some monez so its not 100% out of the question.) Now I understand there might be a new set of personal missions with different reward tanks coming, so I would hypothesize that these two are going to be reward tanks for that.
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