WG EU Moderation adding fuel to a bonfire

Hello,

I’m cutting the chase straight ahead, a few hours ago, I received the following email of a major storm happening on the EU forum:

Dear Rita,

My nickname is shishx_the_animal and I’m one the executive officer in the currently best clan on the European server.

The 5th campaign is in full swing and the drama is at its highest. A member from the team currently ranked 2nd has confessed (in Turkish but we translated) that he used illegal mods which are bannable (it pings on the map all the broken down objects). Catching a cheater is nothing new but we (the top clans on EU) had a good thread called “Frontline News” and it’s 1.5 years old. Everything clan related was documented there including a lot of smack talk, memes and videos. Due to recent events a certain Turkish mod and Community Contributor (vuque and someone called Br-something) did not like that the Turkish clan NOX** was discovered cheating. They didn’t do anything against that player but simply demoted him from combat officer to a private (wow such harsh punishment).

Here comes the best part. Due to NOX** guys being butthurt they found power and managed to get our Frontline news thread DELETED! They simply deleted a topic of around 800 pages to sweep everything under the rug. We created new topics to revolt the moderation of the WG Staff and they locked, deleted and banned a lot of people.

Finally, after the iron fist that was WG clamped down and closed down frontline news (A 1.5 year old thread with around 800 pages), frontline news v2, frontline news resurrected and various other threads,  we received a statement/topic by the glorious Community Coordinator called Ph3lan.

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As you can see, he stated the reasons for said closure of frontline news, and the 7 day bans handed out for various players heavily involved with the forums. He signed off with asking us to “remember the purpose […] is to discuss clan related matters….”, but otherwise did not react to initial player concerns, and did not sanction the cheating player/clan in question.

Feel free to take a look here:
http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/601417-front-line-news-and-fair-play-policy/#topmost

 

Yours truly,

shishx_the_animal”

It did catch my attention so I dove in and dug the video proofs:

In video Description:

“In 17th – 18th seconds of the video, a Nox** player marks the K8 and say his field commander: -Something was crashed in there. I think they are coming back.
Field commander says  -ok.
ı dont know the cheater one.
If you look at the positions of the noxus players on the map, nobody can see K8 from 700 meters.”

In Video Description:

The translation of their conversation:
in the 10th second
MrUn*** : Burak, spot him man. Where are you going?
N00B_KE*** : Shut up Erdem.
MrUn*** : Man, You should go there(and he marks the map). not there.(he implies his position on hill.)
N00B_KE*** : Stupid, I see where he goes via mode.
The streamer has a cough and shocked.
MrUn*** : So, tell me where he goes then.”

Now, the statement that Ph3lan gave is very concise and correct. I hate to agree with it, the forum rule 2.1 Paragraph 8 clearly states that Naming and Shaming is not allowed so, unfortunately, those who named the perpetrators while giving light of the issue in the forum had to receive  punishment although I find their ban time to be ridiculously exaggerated not to speak of the decision to close an old forum thread which had so much WoT history in it.

The main issue here is that the perpetrators (one of them is even a Turkish Community Contributor) haven’t received any sanctions and as I’m writing this, forum users are being censored right and left even when they haven’t done anything wrong and were just stating opinions about the topic in a thread, created by a WG staff about same matter by a “trigger happy” moderator(ion) that wasn’t even sure of what the issue was all about.

I kid you not, as soon he realised what he had done wrong he shut down the thread temporarily to fix his mistake and further erase even more posts from the forum users:

To all respect, I think RodDodgeUK mistook “miscommunication” with “misreading” the topic at hand. That would require and involve Ph3lan who honestly just had the misfortune to pick the short stick and who’s been out of office/offline for a few hours.

This is really sad, even I have refrained from writing my opinion in the thread, and so did many others, posts are being erased just as fast as people are writing them (pages upon pages were deleted) and I really wish I even had time to take screenshots, but this comment that was removed, for example, is it that offensive?

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Probably the most offensive thing about that comment is the T22 rigging but even then…

This is just one of the reasons why you never really see me posting on the EU forum and only really go there when I’m summoned for official matters, I find the EU forum extremely uninviting.

Just before publishing this article I did a last refresh and felt compelled to share Domstadtkerl word’s which I couldn’t agree more with:

“And now my forum-ban is finally ended and I can post on this topic.

Seriously WG-mods, please do reconsider your idea of deleting that topic. For players like myself (and other long-term competitive players) the forums were an important part of the whole CW-business. Clan interaction are like the only fun part of this game anymore anyways. The game is 5 years old, do you seriously think we will go into General Discussions and talk about spotting system or armour layout anymore? Hello, no! We wanna talk to each other about the only battles that really matter. CW, campaign, tournaments, ESL, all the good stuff. Im pretty sure you cant silence this part of the Forums anymore anyways. Also ridiculous statements like “We will ban all of you, that try to talk about the Issue with the player that got caught cheat are more harming you than doing any good.

This part of the forums is a very good reason for me and other players to keep on playing your game. We are influencing thousands of players, who also want to be as good as we are, with our thinking/playstyle and stuff. Think before you try to turn down the few of the competitive community that is left.

Just delete the whole “Someone-got-caught-cheating”-Issue from Frontline News and bring us back our beloved thread. In the past there wer other incident regarding national slurs and such, where there was simply a moderator reminding us, that there are rules on this fourm. Why handle the issue differently this time?

Please show some cooperation.”

At this point, I do believe that WG EU moderation does owe an apology over the type of treatment they conducted towards the community.

And let’s not forget, the illegal mod users and players/clans involved haven’t yet received punishment.

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