“Liberate Berlin” No way did it liberate Berlin because FDR and the US element of the allied force command held back and let the Russians take most of central Europe letting it fall under Stalin’s control.
No one held back. Get some history you probably need it.
The so called pathetic Allies decided to attack the Normady while the Russians were already in Poland freeing the people caught in concetration camps. They decided to attack the Normady only because they caught the information, that Hitler is moving most of his forces to the east frontline leaving the Normady and whole France unprotected. This Allies basically attacked outnumbered left Nazi’s and they still had massive casulties. And then they called themselfes heroes and triumphal.
For dumb people:
Allies Nazi’s
5 vs 1
Stalin had all right to take the whole Germany and call it a part of Russia, but no this butthurt fat Americans felt like they deserve half of it for doing litteraly nothing. It’s like that McDonalds workers that want 15$/h wage. Ofc Stalin was pissd of this bullshit and thus the cold war started. I also get pissed at people who have no knowledge about history or had this teachers telling you bullshit and you nod there and believed that crap.
I had a history teacher that told the whole calss, that ONLY with the help of the Allies the Nazi’s could get beaten. There was no NO other chance or way to win against them.
I told that propaganda bullshit to the principal, he had to repeat the lesson infornt of him without hit fairy tales of magical Allies that did everything.
Get some history you probably need it. 1) The US DID hold back on its advance, mainly to stroke Montgomery’s ego. 2) The Germans were not outnumbered at Normandy, at least not initially. That 5-1 ratio was on ships at the beginning of the invasion, so they were useless for the most part. The Germans had the advantage as they had more men on land to repel the invasion, which is why there were so many allied casualties. 3) Read Band Of Brothers (the basis for the miniseries) by Stephen E Ambrose. You will get a better idea of what was happening. 4) Seems that YOU are the one that is believing BS propaganda. Had the allies not been pushing through north Africa and threatening Italy, Germany could have brought more units to the eastern front and at the very least stemmed the advance of Russia if not actually captured Stalingrad, Moscow, etc.
K you clearly come from a place where objectivity is in very short supply. It is well documented that zones of occupation had been agreed at the conference in Casablanca, held in January 1943. If Stalin thought that he did not need the other allies why was he calling for a second front and the invasion of France with so much impatience. I am in no way demeaning the sacrifice of the Russian people and armed forces who could have stopped the Nazis sooner if Stalin had not purged the officer ranks of the armed forces prior to the war. You comments seem to be the words of a deluded Stalin fan boy who has not bothered to peak from under the comfort blanket of post soviet propaganda and get the information that is in your own countries archives. Chew on the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact why don’t you.
INb4 t’was not the Americans who liberated Berlin, and it wasn’t liberated.
Wow no wonder Americans are fat retards, they believe their own lies. America freed Berlin, America safed the world, without America joining the war there would be no win against the Nazi’s. America so great did all by ourselfes. We so clevever. USA USA !
Well WW2 wasn’t won by America or their pathetic Allies making beachpartys. WW2 was won by the Russians and thats only because Stalin was fucking pissed. They fought from Stalingrad to Berlin nonstop, terminating every Nazi they could see. And then they took the Reichstag which was the end of the war.
The Germans pulled most of their forces out from france and their west side to try to stop the Russian steamtrain of death. Leaving whole France on low level of protection and the Normady at maby 20% of it’s german forces. Making it a easy play for this smartie forces to attack the Normady. If all german forces were still there it wouldn’t be called D-day it would be called Death-Day.
And then this dense mofos even dare to speak about their triumphal win on the Normady and winning over the Nazi’s. And they even dare to make propaganda about that Russia is the bad guy and all Americans need to hate Russians because they are obviously bad. Unbelievable !
The russians carried the major weight of the war in the european theatre, that is correct.
The western allies, especially the USA, were heaviely involved in the fightings around the pacific theatre.
I guess it’s pretty clear what would have happend if the Japanese Kingdom would have been able to march through Manchuria and China into the asian part of Russia.
The russian efforts in the pacific theatre was negligible. All they did here was the anihilation of the japanese forces in Manchuria which were very badly equipped and very low on morale.
The russians carried the major weight of the war in the european theatre, that is correct.
The western allies, especially the USA, were heaviely involved in the fightings around the pacific theatre.
I guess it’s pretty clear what would have happend if the Japanese Kingdom would have been able to march through Manchuria and China into the asian part of Russia.
The russian efforts in the pacific theatre was negligible. All they did here was the anihilation of the japanese forces in Manchuria which were very badly equipped and very low on morale.
The russians carried the major weight of the war in the european theatre, that is correct.
The western allies, especially the USA, were heaviely involved in the fightings around the pacific theatre.
I guess it’s pretty clear what would have happend if the Japanese Kingdom would have been able to march through Manchuria and China into the asian part of Russia.
The russian efforts in the pacific theatre was negligible. All they did here was the anihilation of the japanese forces in Manchuria which were very badly equipped and very low on morale.
Russian steamtrain of death? The Americans were fighting on both sides of the world at the same time. The Russians made a deal with Japan and pulled their eastern forces west b/c their “steamtrain of death” lost a few million “pieces of coal”. Don’t act like the Russians r some kind of god’s of battle. Every single war they’ve fought in, they lost the most soldiers. They fought the same weapons and training the Americans and allied forces fought. Why didn’t the rest of the allies lose that many people? Y did it take years to break the siege of Stalingrad? And more importantly, y did Russia make a deal with the Germans prior to WW2 allowing them to build their forces beyond what the rest of the world said they could? Ur precious Russia helped the Germans build the very machines that led to millions of their own peoples deaths.
Russians are a proud nation. They smile towards death if their actions are for russia. It is not comparable to any other nation. To one dead Allied Soldier were ~85 dead Russians.
You think Russians hate Stalin ? No Stalin was a great man, after his time capitalists took his place and turned the USSR into a mess. Thats why all this fags are making hunger jokes about communism. The ones that hate Stalin were facists like the ROA, traitors, capitalists that were stolen their corruption money and dumb sheeps especailly the ones that didn’t want a war and fight germany back. All belong to gulag for a reason.
Stalin had done a very hard choice, get Stalingrad back and defend their borders or risk the life of millions of Russians to fight the Nazi’s till no ones left. He sacrificed his people for a greater good, to stop the Nazi’s and set a statement. Without his decision maby even you there reading this would be a Nazi slave today.
It kinda reminds me when Dr Who decided to destroy his planet to exterminate all Darleks.
U seem to be ignoring how he helped the Germans build up their forces in his nation so they could jointly overwhelm Poland and possibly the rest of Europe. Stalin caused the catastrophe of what happened to his people. Of course he had to sacrifice many of his own, he caused their suffering when he made a deal with the devil. He’s no hero, he’s a murdering coward who gambled with the wrong lot, and what came of it? Germany destroying a good portion of Europe.
Reading is something useful and important. And knowledge never ever uses vital brain cells.
This link is one of the many talking about how Nazi Germany used their assets in Normandy and about. Please enjoy.
This is such a good idea it got me looking around.
I have just found a Leopard 1 for sale at Euro 176.250 and I’m really tempted to buy one. http://www.milweb.net/webvert/a2637/91175
First, I thought this was Rasha.
Then, I realised its in english.
And after that… “damn, too much money”.
“Liberate Berlin” No way did it liberate Berlin because FDR and the US element of the allied force command held back and let the Russians take most of central Europe letting it fall under Stalin’s control.
No one held back. Get some history you probably need it.
The so called pathetic Allies decided to attack the Normady while the Russians were already in Poland freeing the people caught in concetration camps. They decided to attack the Normady only because they caught the information, that Hitler is moving most of his forces to the east frontline leaving the Normady and whole France unprotected. This Allies basically attacked outnumbered left Nazi’s and they still had massive casulties. And then they called themselfes heroes and triumphal.
For dumb people:
Allies Nazi’s
5 vs 1
Stalin had all right to take the whole Germany and call it a part of Russia, but no this butthurt fat Americans felt like they deserve half of it for doing litteraly nothing. It’s like that McDonalds workers that want 15$/h wage. Ofc Stalin was pissd of this bullshit and thus the cold war started. I also get pissed at people who have no knowledge about history or had this teachers telling you bullshit and you nod there and believed that crap.
I had a history teacher that told the whole calss, that ONLY with the help of the Allies the Nazi’s could get beaten. There was no NO other chance or way to win against them.
I told that propaganda bullshit to the principal, he had to repeat the lesson infornt of him without hit fairy tales of magical Allies that did everything.
Get some history you probably need it. 1) The US DID hold back on its advance, mainly to stroke Montgomery’s ego. 2) The Germans were not outnumbered at Normandy, at least not initially. That 5-1 ratio was on ships at the beginning of the invasion, so they were useless for the most part. The Germans had the advantage as they had more men on land to repel the invasion, which is why there were so many allied casualties. 3) Read Band Of Brothers (the basis for the miniseries) by Stephen E Ambrose. You will get a better idea of what was happening. 4) Seems that YOU are the one that is believing BS propaganda. Had the allies not been pushing through north Africa and threatening Italy, Germany could have brought more units to the eastern front and at the very least stemmed the advance of Russia if not actually captured Stalingrad, Moscow, etc.
K you clearly come from a place where objectivity is in very short supply. It is well documented that zones of occupation had been agreed at the conference in Casablanca, held in January 1943. If Stalin thought that he did not need the other allies why was he calling for a second front and the invasion of France with so much impatience. I am in no way demeaning the sacrifice of the Russian people and armed forces who could have stopped the Nazis sooner if Stalin had not purged the officer ranks of the armed forces prior to the war. You comments seem to be the words of a deluded Stalin fan boy who has not bothered to peak from under the comfort blanket of post soviet propaganda and get the information that is in your own countries archives. Chew on the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact why don’t you.
INb4 t’was not the Americans who liberated Berlin, and it wasn’t liberated.
Slow or no news day I guess.
Wow no wonder Americans are fat retards, they believe their own lies. America freed Berlin, America safed the world, without America joining the war there would be no win against the Nazi’s. America so great did all by ourselfes. We so clevever. USA USA !
Well WW2 wasn’t won by America or their pathetic Allies making beachpartys. WW2 was won by the Russians and thats only because Stalin was fucking pissed. They fought from Stalingrad to Berlin nonstop, terminating every Nazi they could see. And then they took the Reichstag which was the end of the war.
The Germans pulled most of their forces out from france and their west side to try to stop the Russian steamtrain of death. Leaving whole France on low level of protection and the Normady at maby 20% of it’s german forces. Making it a easy play for this smartie forces to attack the Normady. If all german forces were still there it wouldn’t be called D-day it would be called Death-Day.
And then this dense mofos even dare to speak about their triumphal win on the Normady and winning over the Nazi’s. And they even dare to make propaganda about that Russia is the bad guy and all Americans need to hate Russians because they are obviously bad. Unbelievable !
The russians carried the major weight of the war in the european theatre, that is correct.
The western allies, especially the USA, were heaviely involved in the fightings around the pacific theatre.
I guess it’s pretty clear what would have happend if the Japanese Kingdom would have been able to march through Manchuria and China into the asian part of Russia.
The russian efforts in the pacific theatre was negligible. All they did here was the anihilation of the japanese forces in Manchuria which were very badly equipped and very low on morale.
The russians carried the major weight of the war in the european theatre, that is correct.
The western allies, especially the USA, were heaviely involved in the fightings around the pacific theatre.
I guess it’s pretty clear what would have happend if the Japanese Kingdom would have been able to march through Manchuria and China into the asian part of Russia.
The russian efforts in the pacific theatre was negligible. All they did here was the anihilation of the japanese forces in Manchuria which were very badly equipped and very low on morale.
ps. Why the thumb down?
So much raw salty butthurtness did papa Stalin not treat you rough enough in the Gulag next time tell daddy to hurt you good
Yeah, that story is sooooooo much historically correct than the “US propaganda”…
Can I have a stug on my road too cause it “saved us from the russians”
The russians carried the major weight of the war in the european theatre, that is correct.
The western allies, especially the USA, were heaviely involved in the fightings around the pacific theatre.
I guess it’s pretty clear what would have happend if the Japanese Kingdom would have been able to march through Manchuria and China into the asian part of Russia.
The russian efforts in the pacific theatre was negligible. All they did here was the anihilation of the japanese forces in Manchuria which were very badly equipped and very low on morale.
ps. Why the thumb down?
So much salty butthurtness did papa Stalin not give you a good enough dicking in the Gulog next time tell daddy to hurt you good
Russian steamtrain of death? The Americans were fighting on both sides of the world at the same time. The Russians made a deal with Japan and pulled their eastern forces west b/c their “steamtrain of death” lost a few million “pieces of coal”. Don’t act like the Russians r some kind of god’s of battle. Every single war they’ve fought in, they lost the most soldiers. They fought the same weapons and training the Americans and allied forces fought. Why didn’t the rest of the allies lose that many people? Y did it take years to break the siege of Stalingrad? And more importantly, y did Russia make a deal with the Germans prior to WW2 allowing them to build their forces beyond what the rest of the world said they could? Ur precious Russia helped the Germans build the very machines that led to millions of their own peoples deaths.
Russians are a proud nation. They smile towards death if their actions are for russia. It is not comparable to any other nation. To one dead Allied Soldier were ~85 dead Russians.
You think Russians hate Stalin ? No Stalin was a great man, after his time capitalists took his place and turned the USSR into a mess. Thats why all this fags are making hunger jokes about communism. The ones that hate Stalin were facists like the ROA, traitors, capitalists that were stolen their corruption money and dumb sheeps especailly the ones that didn’t want a war and fight germany back. All belong to gulag for a reason.
Stalin had done a very hard choice, get Stalingrad back and defend their borders or risk the life of millions of Russians to fight the Nazi’s till no ones left. He sacrificed his people for a greater good, to stop the Nazi’s and set a statement. Without his decision maby even you there reading this would be a Nazi slave today.
It kinda reminds me when Dr Who decided to destroy his planet to exterminate all Darleks.
U seem to be ignoring how he helped the Germans build up their forces in his nation so they could jointly overwhelm Poland and possibly the rest of Europe. Stalin caused the catastrophe of what happened to his people. Of course he had to sacrifice many of his own, he caused their suffering when he made a deal with the devil. He’s no hero, he’s a murdering coward who gambled with the wrong lot, and what came of it? Germany destroying a good portion of Europe.
Reading is something useful and important. And knowledge never ever uses vital brain cells.
This link is one of the many talking about how Nazi Germany used their assets in Normandy and about. Please enjoy.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/history/the-german-response-to-d-day
This is such a good idea it got me looking around.
I have just found a Leopard 1 for sale at Euro 176.250 and I’m really tempted to buy one.
http://www.milweb.net/webvert/a2637/91175