it’s a free to play game, meaning that everyone gets one, whether you pay or not. they should probably give people who’ve spent more than a certain amount a different gift tank, though.
Looks like someone else understands. I never got why people complained about something that is free. Even if you don’t like the tank, you get something that would cost 300 gold (real money)….
Even then, there have been a decent amount of decent gift vehicles; Tetrarch, T7 Car (until the map changes), LTP, Toldi. Sure they have flaws compared to their peers, but that should be expected. I personally took the gifts out to the field every once in awhile when I did play, and I might get on just to have fun in the L60 (after the whole “Armor Run” calms down)
The true meaning of free tier 2 tanks is it to get the H35 or the micro maus which you drive arround while generally not givign a shit about enemy fire
Haha ha you know somones a noob when they say “why do all the gift tanks suck a$$” mostly because that means they have not played this game until a year ago 2015 so getting two gift tanks and they are complaining they all suck? genius right
A decent tier 4 or 5 premium would be nice, tier 2 or 3 once in a while I guess so, but ONLY those low tiers? No, I want to train 4-5 men crews, not a silly 2 or 3 crew for a light tank in a tech tree that I will never play.
Because they didn’t give out enough free rentals, tank reserves, and tournament gold to all the spoiled brats, wargaming can’t win and now I see why haha
I didn’t notice my mistake, meant to say that they made great barracks in those garage slots they come in. I better proof read some of my comments more often.
Will it be as terrible as the other gift tanks, LTP excepted.
There is actually NOTHING going on at Tier 2, you partially wait more then 3 minutes at night until you get thrown into matches with reduced player amount (7vs7). So, well, it´s always nice to get something for free, but why the hell always the same lights/mediums at tier 2 that
1. don´t get played actually and
2. no diversity, why not a heavy or tank destroyer as an example.
Tier II autoloading toldi 😛 hopefully wargaming will expand the swedish tree with light tanks because there are still quite a few tanks they haven’t used.
Perhaps in the future. They’ve already stated that they’ve got enough Swedish tanks for a pair of TD lines, a dedicated heavy, medium, and light tank line, and an arty line.
They’re just releasing them a bit at a time because they want people to be interested for longer.
So like whe the heck are we supposed to do wtih it? Train a swedish 3 man light tank crew that is not usable anywhere else? I am not sure that WG understands concept of “giving gifts”. Normally if you like someone, you think alot and you actually put some effort into the object that you gonna present to your “friend”. If you go to a “all for 1$” shop and get something there its like saying “here, have this piece of useless crap. I dont give a flying f**k about you, but ppl say that you need to give gifts on new year”.
On the other hand person receiving gift should not feel entitled to receive only the most exquisite and expensive stuff and complain if he doesn’t get it.
I never miss the opportunity to give sh*t to Wargaming every time they make a blunder. But gift tanks are not one of them. I don’t know when exactly this trend started but Wargaming lulled player into believing that they are entitled to at least two free tanks per year (1 for either WG or WoT anniversary and one for Xmas). In 2015 we got 3 tanks just for logging in during certain period. Plus other two for some simple missions that were easily completed just by casually playing the game. Right now the situation is that certain group of players whines every single time FREE GIFT is not tier 10 premium tank that is superior to any other tank in game, makes x50 credits and XP and gives you handjob in the morning, Should Wargaming stop giving free tanks (the way i see it, people who think that giving free stuff equals “I dont give a flying f**k about you” should not be disappointed if they no longer get said free stuff) there would be even more whining: “but you MUST give us free stuff even if we whine like little bi*ches every time we get free stuff!!!”.
I am not saying that I WANT a super-duper gift on every xmas, new year, anniversary. On the contrary, my point is: If you have nothing good to give away simply dont do that. That’s it.
Zebislaw, Wargaming has few more customers besides you. And some of them actually like these little puny tanks.
But even people like you are getting something that is worth at least 150 gold. If you don’t like gift tank you can always sell it for a handful of credits and garage slot. Surely it’s not the worst thing that can happen in this world.
WG has released 10 gift tanks (BT-7A, Toldi 3, LTP, Te-Ke, Tetrarch, T7 CC, T1E6, T-45, Pz 2D and Light Mk6)
Of those, I’d say that Tetrarch, LTP, T-45 and Te-Ke are good. T7 CC and Light Mk6 have premium mm and decent DPM, and T1E6 has good clip potential, so while not good, they are usable.
The only things that I’d call truly bad are Pz 2D, BT-7A and Toldi 3. Only they have crippling disadvantages, and I’d only classify the Pz 2D as catastrophically bad even out of these. BT-7A at least has extremely good DPM and ability to derp things, and Toldis greatest and pretty much only problem is completely useless DPM.
It’s not as bad as you say. Only 30% of the tanks have been explicitly bad, and 40% have been good/above average. Besides, it’s not as if WG hasn’t ofered opportunities to get premium tanks for free. In the last 2 years, players could have gotten SU-100Y, TOG 2, Dicker Max (Twice in fact), and Chi-Nu Kai for free by completing rather easy missions on EU. I don’t know much about NA missions, but what I do remember is that they gave the E-25 away as a prize for a pretty easy mission. I also earned my Excelsior from a mission as well.
Admittedly, none of the tanks that have been available as mission prizes on EU have been especially good, but Dicker Max can get some decent results when one gets used to its numerous quirks and Excelsior, due to its decent speed and premium MM, is good for win farming for some missions.
New free unique tier II to collection ! Good.
btw. I always keep those tiny gift tanks that WG gives us.
You know, that Light VIC with maxed crew can do amazing things…
I hope to god it’s better than the Toldi. Toldi would be an amazing tank if it wasn’t for that gun. It needs either a reload, accuracy, or aim time buff.
here comes another free garage slot
They need to give everyone a free tier 5…. Even if its just a kv1 that is completely stock…
meh people would still rant since it would be a bad tank
Yeah, let’s ruin tier 5 pub matches with a free tier 5 heavy! Thank wargaming this special kind of newbie hell only happens at bottom tiers
If u dont like what we are getting then i thinck u didnt do the mission were u could get a Dicker Max (you onely needed to get 50k xp)
lol supid loser…
I did see this in the Test Server files. Didn’t know that this was what it would be for.
here comes another piece of shit tier 2 which i will sell
here comes another shit which i will sell.
why do all gift tanks have to suck A$$? You kind of get the feeling you are not a valued customer when you get a POS every year.
it’s a free to play game, meaning that everyone gets one, whether you pay or not. they should probably give people who’ve spent more than a certain amount a different gift tank, though.
Looks like someone else understands. I never got why people complained about something that is free. Even if you don’t like the tank, you get something that would cost 300 gold (real money)….
Even then, there have been a decent amount of decent gift vehicles; Tetrarch, T7 Car (until the map changes), LTP, Toldi. Sure they have flaws compared to their peers, but that should be expected. I personally took the gifts out to the field every once in awhile when I did play, and I might get on just to have fun in the L60 (after the whole “Armor Run” calms down)
The true meaning of free tier 2 tanks is it to get the H35 or the micro maus which you drive arround while generally not givign a shit about enemy fire
seems like you haven’t played the Hotchkiss for quite a while now.
Same toutghts here. This new Swede can’t even pen the MicroMaus with gold. People surely will have at least some fun @ Xmas time this year too. 😉
That tank is totally useless nowadays. There is plenty of tanks now that can pen it easily without premium ammo.
I’ll just carry on in Armored Warfare where I get tier 4 premiums for free and don’t have to pay for garage slots or barrack slots.
Haha ha you know somones a noob when they say “why do all the gift tanks suck a$$” mostly because that means they have not played this game until a year ago 2015 so getting two gift tanks and they are complaining they all suck? genius right
Its the russian business model, putting peasants to their place…
A decent tier 4 or 5 premium would be nice, tier 2 or 3 once in a while I guess so, but ONLY those low tiers? No, I want to train 4-5 men crews, not a silly 2 or 3 crew for a light tank in a tech tree that I will never play.
Than buy fucking prem tank and grind crew kiddo
Already got a prem tank my good sir.
Because they didn’t give out enough free rentals, tank reserves, and tournament gold to all the spoiled brats, wargaming can’t win and now I see why haha
I love the rental tanks I get!…They make great garage slots.
Yeah right train crew on a Tier 2 tank cause it gives so much XP kappa.
rental tanks’ garage slots gets deleted as they are removed, afaik
I didn’t notice my mistake, meant to say that they made great barracks in those garage slots they come in. I better proof read some of my comments more often.
Will it be as terrible as the other gift tanks, LTP excepted.
Tetrarch?
That was before my time, but yes it is a good tenk
Low tier autoloading premium with same pen as a T7 car and enough armor to bounce some T7 rounds in return? Could be pretty fun.
Yet another free garage slot.
This is cool. I like free stuff to collect.
Basically we already got an L60 with a better gun last year…
But with terrible and unusable DPM.
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it’s just rotten
There is actually NOTHING going on at Tier 2, you partially wait more then 3 minutes at night until you get thrown into matches with reduced player amount (7vs7). So, well, it´s always nice to get something for free, but why the hell always the same lights/mediums at tier 2 that
1. don´t get played actually and
2. no diversity, why not a heavy or tank destroyer as an example.
Thnx Rita, You ruined christmas in oktober with this news 😛
Rita’s not here at the moment, please leave a message at the sound of the beep.
If you like to see all details…
https://twitter.com/zombiebus_eu/status/785901233273839616
For those who want to know the general stats (According to the Test Server)
Health: 180
Hull Armor: 13/13/7
Turret Armor: 13/13/13
Engine Power: 160hp
HP/Ton: 21.92
Speed: 48km/h (20km/h in reverse)
Hull Traverse Speed: 45deg/s
Terrain Resistance: 0.959/1.295/1.87
20mm akam m/Madson
Damage: 12
Penetration: 27mm
Reload Time: 4.795 seconds (10 round magazine)
DPM: 960.7
Accuracy: 0.46
Aim Time: 1.92 seconds
Elevation: 30/-10
Turret Traverse Speed: 45.9
View Range:280
I’ll let the community be the judge
https://twitter.com/zombiebus_eu/status/785901233273839616
Ingame Stats as Screenshot
13mm armour? I’m suddenly glad I kept my SU-18 I used to use to club T18s with
Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. J and then we all play with this one,ans crash the game 🙂
We literally already got this. At least for the Toldi, there was use for it, but there aren’t even going to be Swedish light tanks
Tier II autoloading toldi 😛 hopefully wargaming will expand the swedish tree with light tanks because there are still quite a few tanks they haven’t used.
There will be three Swedish light tanks on tier 1, 2 and 3. And maybe more will come in the future.
Perhaps in the future. They’ve already stated that they’ve got enough Swedish tanks for a pair of TD lines, a dedicated heavy, medium, and light tank line, and an arty line.
They’re just releasing them a bit at a time because they want people to be interested for longer.
specify your source next time!
https://thedailybounce.net/2016/10/11/christmas-2016-free-tank-swedish-l-60/
So like whe the heck are we supposed to do wtih it? Train a swedish 3 man light tank crew that is not usable anywhere else? I am not sure that WG understands concept of “giving gifts”. Normally if you like someone, you think alot and you actually put some effort into the object that you gonna present to your “friend”. If you go to a “all for 1$” shop and get something there its like saying “here, have this piece of useless crap. I dont give a flying f**k about you, but ppl say that you need to give gifts on new year”.
On the other hand person receiving gift should not feel entitled to receive only the most exquisite and expensive stuff and complain if he doesn’t get it.
I never miss the opportunity to give sh*t to Wargaming every time they make a blunder. But gift tanks are not one of them. I don’t know when exactly this trend started but Wargaming lulled player into believing that they are entitled to at least two free tanks per year (1 for either WG or WoT anniversary and one for Xmas). In 2015 we got 3 tanks just for logging in during certain period. Plus other two for some simple missions that were easily completed just by casually playing the game. Right now the situation is that certain group of players whines every single time FREE GIFT is not tier 10 premium tank that is superior to any other tank in game, makes x50 credits and XP and gives you handjob in the morning, Should Wargaming stop giving free tanks (the way i see it, people who think that giving free stuff equals “I dont give a flying f**k about you” should not be disappointed if they no longer get said free stuff) there would be even more whining: “but you MUST give us free stuff even if we whine like little bi*ches every time we get free stuff!!!”.
Well damn said
I am not saying that I WANT a super-duper gift on every xmas, new year, anniversary. On the contrary, my point is: If you have nothing good to give away simply dont do that. That’s it.
Zebislaw, Wargaming has few more customers besides you. And some of them actually like these little puny tanks.
But even people like you are getting something that is worth at least 150 gold. If you don’t like gift tank you can always sell it for a handful of credits and garage slot. Surely it’s not the worst thing that can happen in this world.
All Swedish tanks will be a 3 men crew…
I am sure they will, but this one is a tier 2 light and from tier 4 you have meds and you cant put crew from med into prem light 🙁
I would prefer the Garage slot only so i dont have to do the work to sell that thing
Why do they even bother with these… who playes them
It’s Tier 2, AKA a wasteland now that it has only 2 maps. Make it at least a Tier 3.
I refuse to play tier 2, it would mean going to Slaughterburg, a terrible fast twitch click fest. Tier 3 should be the minimum.
They might as well give out tier 2 BatChats, no one is going to play them with this shit low tier map rotation.
Eh, it’s nothing special, but it’s about what you’d expect from a Xmas gift.
I’ll take it, probably have it gather dust in my garage a few months, then sell it if I need the money or garage slot.
Guess this means we will never get a Toldi I A20. Its almost same tank.
Going to be great, looking forward to it. Thanx WG, and thanx Rita and Decanoir for the great work you do.
It will very likely gather dust in my garage, but well, it’s free. I won’t complain.
Just buff the 43.M Toldi III reload time: 15,64shot/min to 24-26 shot/min.
Still now French gift tank
There gas been only 3 good gift tanks the t7cc the ltp and last years the German tank with the 2pdr
How about Tetrarch, T-45 and Te-Ke?
WG has released 10 gift tanks (BT-7A, Toldi 3, LTP, Te-Ke, Tetrarch, T7 CC, T1E6, T-45, Pz 2D and Light Mk6)
Of those, I’d say that Tetrarch, LTP, T-45 and Te-Ke are good. T7 CC and Light Mk6 have premium mm and decent DPM, and T1E6 has good clip potential, so while not good, they are usable.
The only things that I’d call truly bad are Pz 2D, BT-7A and Toldi 3. Only they have crippling disadvantages, and I’d only classify the Pz 2D as catastrophically bad even out of these. BT-7A at least has extremely good DPM and ability to derp things, and Toldis greatest and pretty much only problem is completely useless DPM.
It’s not as bad as you say. Only 30% of the tanks have been explicitly bad, and 40% have been good/above average. Besides, it’s not as if WG hasn’t ofered opportunities to get premium tanks for free. In the last 2 years, players could have gotten SU-100Y, TOG 2, Dicker Max (Twice in fact), and Chi-Nu Kai for free by completing rather easy missions on EU. I don’t know much about NA missions, but what I do remember is that they gave the E-25 away as a prize for a pretty easy mission. I also earned my Excelsior from a mission as well.
Admittedly, none of the tanks that have been available as mission prizes on EU have been especially good, but Dicker Max can get some decent results when one gets used to its numerous quirks and Excelsior, due to its decent speed and premium MM, is good for win farming for some missions.
New free unique tier II to collection ! Good.
btw. I always keep those tiny gift tanks that WG gives us.
You know, that Light VIC with maxed crew can do amazing things…
WGNA used to give away T-14s, E-25s, and SU-100Ys. Now this…. What has the world come to?
I hope to god it’s better than the Toldi. Toldi would be an amazing tank if it wasn’t for that gun. It needs either a reload, accuracy, or aim time buff.
Tier 2 Toldi. If it doesn’t have green paint, I might mix up the two of them.
looks like toldi 3
A tier 2 gift tank you say?
*Starts to refuel his collection of tier 2 French “LT’s” and hoarding the gold in the PZ II J*
Love taking the Hotchkiss out when there are crappy gift tanks driving all around.
Compare this tank with the toldi 3. I looks pretty much the same.
Still waiting for French gift tank…
Got that right, where’s our AMR 35, AMC 35, or Lorraine 47mm TD 🙁 –Heck, I would even take the AMC 34 if they would just give one already!