Good day everyone,
Recently the World of Tanks developers had an open conference to discuss plans for 1.0 and the future of the game. Here’s the newest info:
Preferential MM
- Preferential MM will continue to slowly be phased out, even with vehicles that already have it. The first planned vehicle will be KV-5. The nature of those changes aren’t worked out yet. Though there will likely be the option for gold compensation or the rebalanced vehicle.
- On that note, these plans exist only for Tier 8 premium tanks. Lower (and less expensive) tiers will likely have something different happen to them.
Crew and Crew UI Changes
- The developers are working on a new system for some perks. One of these might be a new version of Sixth Sense that works automatically and is already active to a new commander.
- There are also plans to change up the admittedly terrible crew and barracks UI.
- In addition to changing skills, WG also want to work on possibilities for transferring the crew from tank to tank.
- Most of these changes were prompted by the fact that the current crew skill system is pretty monotonous, with only a few essential skills being selected. The exact nature of these changes haven’t been made completely clear.
- Testing for these changes should start sooner rather than later. A big part of this is communicating these changes to players with highly skilled veteran crews.
1.0 Changes
- A new version of Personal Missions is set for October of this year.
- There are talks for the possibility of buying tanks with bonds (there are also plans to introduce more goods in general with bonds as the current selection is pretty limited).
- There are no plans to revise the formula for earning experience.
- With WoT 1.0, the option to buy consumables and premium ammo with gold will be removed and the prices of premium ammo will also be adjusted. The next few iterations of Sandbox will test some adjustments to the in-game ammunition economy or even testing entirely new ammunition systems.
- 1.0 will also see some testing for the removal of team damage, arty included.
- There are some plans for an extended complaint system and additional dialogue options/compliment system with allies. The return of general chat after these changes was teased.
Random Bits
- The Super Conqueror has been put on the watch list for closer monitoring.
- No plans on changes to the Type 5.
- After 1.0 WG will be looking into issues with smaller maps and possibly expanding them.
- No T67 nerfs planned.
- WG will release info on the ST-I and IS-4 within the next 6 months.
- WG has plans for something to replace WarGaming League. News for this should come out at the end of the summer.
- If issues with Erlenburg can’t be worked out, it will be left completely like Stalingrad.
- The house in the Redshire capture circle will be removed.
- WG doesn’t believe there are any major issues with artillery at the moment, but is monitoring theme closely.
- The M44 is a known problem at Tier 6.
- There are no plans at the moment for further MM changes, as new rules and restrictions to MM have larger ramifications on the game as a whole, so they need to be carefully considered.
- Possibilities of a PvE mode are being looked into. In addition, the special modes previously seen will make a return this year starting in May, including football.
- Server based in-game replays are also being looked into now that they have been made available on WoT Console.
- Historical Battles will only make a return as a possible PvE mode.
- The T-22 medium is a closed off topic not available for further discussion.
- +/- 25% RNG will not change, even the penetration changes introduced in Blitz.
- Loot boxes will likely make an appearance as rewards for special events.
- The end of the year will see a loyalty program for long-time players.
- There are no plans to change the economy of Tier 10.
- There are plans on creating in-game bots able to accurately mimic the 48% win-rate player for the purposes of testing.
- Tier 10 tank replacements will calm down as the developers work on the introduction of Italian tanks.
Tank Customization
- This has been broken down into three stages: Stage 1 has already been introduced. Stage 2 will consist of more possibilities for 2D customization and Stage 3 will consist of customizable 3D elements.
Remove the retarded 3/5/7 battles and make it so there can’t be less than 5 low tiers in a battle, the rest stays random.
Remove XVM.
Don’t fuck up the ammo rebalance (wait, who am I even kidding?)
I don’t get why wg realise their mistake in changing the old MM System of 9.14 and before.. on that 1 mistake they build a big pile of shi* that’s what it is and they ruin their once great game
By not realising every issue would be solved going to the old mm.. Mark my words this game
Will at least die on Eu as it does on Na because of the MM. Guaranteed.
why remove xvm ?
pretty useful to assess on which you can count on on your team and those you should not stay close to as they will only drag you down quickly
Ummmm….. you do realize that 3/5/7 MM means that there isn’t less than 5 low tier tanks in a battle. 7 is MORE than 5.
Could they have been more vague about Preferential MM? I think now. and in other news… players who would like to see some real game play improvements and a fixed MM can all get fucked! WG wants pretty…
I think preferential mm can be solved pretty easily. Make it conditional, if you are in t8 with pref mm, make it “a must” to see t7 tanks in battle too. So will it be t6 t7 and t8, or t7 t8, or t7 t8 and t9, make it random. But condition should be there is always some form of t7 tanks in game. When a friend of mine got is6 for a week, we played pref mm tanks, i drove my super pershing, and it was awful. Most of the games were t8 only, or t8 and t9.
Not a single game was vs t6, from around 150 of games that we played.
As much as I loved the Pref MM back in the day it should be gone because all it does is harm the MM system. Adding a requirement to see t7 would make the issue worse not better. It should be done away with and I for one will be very happy to play my pref tanks again on an even footing. The IS-6 for example could basically get a small armor buff (+20mm overall would be huge) and better gun stats. Would turn it into quite the powerful tank again.
No info about polish tree means some serious troubles occurred that wg didnt expected to face.
I think they are hoping everyone forgot the polish tree was meant to be here already
WG doesn’t believe there are any major issues with artillery at the moment, but is monitoring theme closely.
The M44 is a known problem at Tier 6.
Hmmmmm….^^
What about the Lefhfhfh arty at T5? That arty is super broken.
You shush!!! Don’t you dare tell them about my favorite arty.
jep, but you can`t get it anymore, and wg don`t give a shit about about tier1-5….
Lefhlefhlefh is a prem arty it will not be touched lol
I think they were referring to arty as a whole not being an issue.
M44 has been smacked to hell 6 times in a row leave it alone if you wanna whine whine about the lefh18b2 that’s the one that’s causing trouble.
Nevermind the M44 has been Clubbing me to no end lol everygame i get killed by it.. Yes take a look at it
They could fix arty, by just remove the retarded stun..
To nerf the arties this was done:
The arties have same DPM as before, now they just shoot faster, more precise and gained stun..
Nobeer, my M40/43 now reload in 39 seconds, instead in 40 seconds. That’s just one second faster reload. DPM isn’t the same – now it makes 100-200 dmg on heavies, making it waste of time to shot heavies at all. And FYI, I have good crew, skill/perk #6 at 53%… gonna are those days when arty can make huge dmg. Now it is good game if I make over 1500 dmg, and haven’t been able to make over 3k (previous could make 4-5k in good battlle).
On paper the dpm is about the same but the penetration of HE shells are halved. Even the derp gun on the O-ni (witch is tier 7 i think) ha more damage potential then any tier 8 arty.
Pref MM worked just fine. The removal of it is partly the cause of the shit balance in the game now.
More like because their MM couldnt distinguish tanks with and without preferential MM. That means it’s dumping tier 7.5 tanks against tier 8s. Imagine how well would an IS-6 fight against the 252U. Or even IS-6 against IS-M.
even with gold that would be a crappy fight and the accuracy and aim time weakspot sniping would be extremely hard. Still removing and then buffing the previous pref mm seems like the wrong way to go about it.
Battle tier XII……….THAT is the problem. Since that time, Tier VIII = Fodder. THEY promised it wouldn’t happen. I’ll bet they could make it all better.
Welp, R.I.P. Derpenberg. Even a fresh coat of paint and major changes couldn’t save you. Oh well.
I also find it amusing how in one sentence WG says there are no major problems with arty, while in the next sentence they address a problem with an arty (M44). Never change, WG lol
Also I’m dying for some changes and interesting reworks of the skills system. It’s pretty dull at the moment and I feel like having more skills, particularly skills geared towards particular roles and play styles (think World of Warships) would be a healthy addition to the game. Same goes for equipment, which almost always boils down to vents, gun rammer and optics, give or take specific cases.
We’ll see what the year brings, eh?
Come on, could you be more ignorant? They obviously mean that they think the way arty now works, ie lower damage stun effect, is fine but the M44 is OP for its tier.
So the Italian Tree has overtaken the Polish?
nope, they have confirmed time and time again that the Polish TT comes first, which is normal when you realize they are still using basic placeholder models for the Italian top tiers
It was always like this.
There was always that minor problem that the Polish simply don’t have any tanks. The only way to get a Polish tree done is to either copy the Russian tree or invent tanks. I suppose somebody with half a brain at WG figured that outside Poland nobody cares overly much for a copy of the Russian tree.
Since when did a lack of tanks stop wg from just bullshitting and making them up, more than half the tanks in wot never ever exsisted and despite the blurb saying exsisted in blueprint only. that is such bollocks. I remember wg said about 2 years ago that a others/united nations tech tree would be added as no other nation had the required amount of tanks to make a complete tech tree.
i can only guess the entire Polish tree is the 1 tank =]
We need more arty in game, specifically premium tier 8 arty.
What’s WG’s view on adding arty?
Can someone ask the developers next time?
We really don’t need more arty in the game, if anything we need less. Much less, we need about 0 arty. Fact
Considering how premium tanks cannot be nerfed, adding premium artillery at tier 8 would be a costly mistake since the artillery mechanic is still not set in stone (people thought wargaming was not going to touch arty pre 8.6, but they did and arty players got mad, as well as 9.18; that was without premium arty!).
I’m pretty sure the question has been asked on RSR (probably a while ago now), but I’d be interested in hearing what wargaming has to say about it again.
Cant be nerfed are you serious play a couple of games in 112 or is6 those things are useless now they rely on armour and only meeting equal or less tiers to dish out damage. 175 pen does fuck all against the vk100p/kv4 let alone a defender.Plus because both of those tanks rely on armour thats okay because all even the derpist of derp players has to do is press the 2 key now he or she cant auto aim through your armour no matter how well angled and slopped yay well done wg. I am not saying you should be unstoppable in a tier 8 prem but it shouldnt be easy for a tier 6 to blast through your armour by merely firing nothing but prem rounds.
Arta scum spotted
Wargaming has said before they will never sell premium artillery again due to the hotly contested nature of artillery already in the game. I think this is one promise they will not break because the shitstorm it would cause is just not worth it.
The current tech trees already used up all period correct spg designs, and of all the future trees only the Yugoslav one can assemble a full arty line
did they say they are adding a yugolsav tech tree because that would basically be the soviet tech tree until about 1992
“1.0 will also see some testing for the removal of team damage, arty included.”
you mean to tell me if people can’t do damage to friendlies there won’t be any team damage? who would’ve thought. otherwise this all looks relatively positive for the game. not sure why the tanks they’ve removed from the shop with pref mm need to be changed tho
“There are plans on creating in-game bots able to accurately mimic the 48% win-rate player for the purposes of testing.”
Hahaha this shouldn’t be too hard, really.
Don’t know why they want to add more… there are so many already ingame…
… ho no, what I am saying… WG have a bot detection tool to remove them… and that’s why my ognore list is full of bot players that are still there ven though I put them in the list 3 months ago…
Uhmm and why is the M44 problematic? Because you can actually play it?
WG sees that it makes credits, so it must be nerfed until players cannot make credits with it 😛
Its like what the old FV304 did. Has a high RoF and amazing shell arc but since its a much larger shell comes with more dmg and better splash/stun.
WG should just adjust every other vehicle in the game to be as playable as the M44
What will have to the super pershing?? Will it get rebuffed?
Also what kind of bs are they saying that they wont fix economy of tier 10 tanks?? Even witha good game you can lose 20k credits.
So if i understand well.
The new Tier X replacements after Obj 430 ver II and T-10 are not going to be released anytime soon? Not in an upcoming update?
WG doesn’t believe there are any major issues with artillery at the moment, but is monitoring theme closely.
Get fucked arty ruins the tank game ya fucking morons
Arty does not ruin the game, it enhances it.
I aggree! Shooting a moving scout at 65 km/h while doing evasive maneuvers counters camping….oh wait……
It makes it so pros can’t farm everyone.
Testing for these changes should start sooner rather than later. A big part of this is communicating these changes to players with highly skilled veteran crews
Communicating with players fuck off wg never do this what a load of shit
What is the issue with M44?
the +/-25 % is just dumb they real need to lower it
They should add actual factor that can lower a shells pen mid flight besides from distance like shell composition, mass, density, things the shells pass through like thick trees, water falls, etc. Environmental factors like wind speed, air pressure, attitude above sea level. The properties of the object it hits like shock resistance, density, mass, composition, etc.
“There are talks for the possibility of buying tanks with bonds (there are also plans to introduce more goods in general with bonds as the current selection is pretty limited).”
I seriously don’t understand this need to create a new secondary economy, what would be the point?
Other than that, it looks like a rather positive update overall.
gold is outdated, then the will also remove prem ammo/consumable for gold, were do you still need gold? Only for support task like retraining, camo or removing modules.
WG needs a new “gold”, and here are the bonds! I can bet my entire savings that bonds will be buyable in the future!
Don’t underestimate how many players use those options. I know lots of players who use gold for those tasks.
Also, that still means my point stand. What is the point of replacing it with a new currency if they’re only replacing it with another. That still makes no sense.
Change MM to include personal rating when making teams more balanced.
That’s called Ranked and it can stay there. I enjoy being one of the few above average players in most matches.
There is something else that WG can do to create better matchmaking. Since WG is already fond of +/- 25% RNG for penetration and damage calculations,.WG could use a similar approach to team composition based on total team experience.
For example WG can limit the imbalance in the total team
XTE metric (or some other skill metric) or the XTE metric
for each tier within a team to +/- x% so you don’t end up
with current team compositions where you have some
unicums on one side versus nothing but tomatoes on the other
side. This would would reduce the type of rofl stomps that
happen due to team experience imbalances alone and increase
the number of more closely fought games.
So unlike a mm solution where you only pair players of a certain experience against others of similar experience (Ranked Battles)
this is a pseudo random mm that puts a limit on team imbalance versus the current random mm where team imbalance is
unlimited.
Skill based mm is not a thing never will be a thing if you want to play in those sorts of game modes its called clan wars.
Skill based match making already is a thing – in Ranked Battles and Clan Wars. But it only attracts a fraction of the player base – neither being appealing enough to the majority. Never is a long time and often proven wrong.
you cant complain about gold ammo, if you cant buy the “better” ammo with gold.
some tanks desperately need preferential MM – yes, i mean the wretched M5 Stuart…
if pref mm is removed, what will happen with B1 french heavy? perhaps could be moved to tier 3 and replaced with something else?
The Super Conqueror has been put on the watch list for closer monitoring? How about closely monitoring Russian tier 10 tanks. According to VB addict 6 out of ten 10 tier 10 highest win rate tanks are Russian. Russian bias at it’s best. Can’t possible have a good western tank now can we.
«The M44 is a known problem at Tier 6»
the whole US Tech Tree is a problem/mess, but I guess they are saying it in the sense of the M44 being OP at tier 6, well, I’m pretty sure they can easily find a replacement for it and maybe even move the M44 to tier 7 or make it a tier 7 premium, which wouldn’t make much sense
«Tier 10 tank replacements will calm down as the developers work on the introduction of Italian tanks»
this means the US TT will probably have to wait until 2019 for a proper rework, and yet they said the AGF medium tank will come in 2018, which translates into another Sherman-like premium tank at tier 7 or 8
no buff for maur ?? 🙁
No change for the bad MM… serious.
Mine November 2017 => february 2018 stats (1130 games T2 T9) : 85.6 % MM-2, 9 % MM-1, 5.4% top tier… but NO problem for WG ?.
They don’t give a fuck what you think! Even community contributers say wg doesn’t give a fuck about their feedback! They do what they want to do and nothing will change that…
“in-game bots able to accurately mimic the 48% win-rate player”
They already exist, even 40% winrate bots playing tier 10 tanks and ruining high-tier battles…
Removing team damage is an extreme idea. I don’t think removing it will improve the game as removing it will not only rid the game of frustrating elements but also of realistic and immersive game elements.
Tl;Dr: Dumbing down gameplay (by removing team damage) is never a good idea.
World of tanks, realistic? Ha!
Im pretty sure, after they will remove TeamDamage, the stupid track shoots will increase.. I mean, what will hinder them? they arent anymore afraid they will hit the tank and have to pay 10k
Removing the possibility of team damage will probably also include removing team module damage. There’d be no real point otherwise.
i hope the pref mm tanks will be buffed to be comparable to other same tier tanks *cough* defender and skorp g *cough* so that they can remove the utter garbage called 3\5\7 and +2 mm in general.
Also to all of talking about arty sentence: They said there’s no MAJOR ISSUE, but they are watching it because there probably is some minor issue.
But then again… who am i to judge
So they want to screw up premium tanks with preferential matchmaker that i paid real money for and they just go “we’ll compensate you with gold” wut? Is that shit even legal? Changing product i paid for for something i don’t want without permission?
well, technically, they have the right to simply delete your account without saying a single word. Did you read the terms of agreement? Among other stuff, you can find it there that you actually don’t own your account but instead you are just using it
“well, technically, they have the right to simply delete your account without saying a single word.”
That won’t hold up in a court.
What court? You don’t own any virtual goods in this game.
+Robopon
>Implying you don’t have to pay real money to play certain tanks.
>Implying gold doesn’t cost real money.
Yeah there are occasions where you can get some of the aforementioned tanks and gold if you do certain missions/events, but trying to imply that there isn’t real money going to WG for products ingame is stupid at best.
Pref MM:
Please die E-25, die in a fire…
Type 5 and T67 totally not overpowered… they are fine.
Premium ammo change might be interesting, but I fear they will not do what I expect them to do… (lower cost, lower damage)
Too bad the 25% does not change, damage wise, okay, but the Pen-RNG needs to go imo
The plans of 48% bots is A) stupid because I know way too many real players who are just absolute trash and have legit 48% and B) wait what? You put bots in our goddamn games? This is giving a whole new meaning to the “shit team”
T-22 we fuvked up so bad, we are just going to say it never happened.
Arty no problem at all, play any swede from the medium line tier 2-7 and expect to get onehit by the piggies, I would hope to see a form where when it hits it deals X damage (-25/+25) and if it splashes also X damage. (Example time) Let’s say the M44 did 200 damage when it hit, no matter if it is a maus or a T67 and it did 50 if it splashed, same principle. I think this makes arty more thought out and makes it so that you can say “well, I have 300 health left, I can also take one from arty” and not the feeling you get crapped on for 10 damage or oneshot out of nowhere.
I’d rather play with Bots than with the Teammates i currenty get
Way too many teases, we have to be careful, before we step on the hype train…
“A new version of Personal Missions is set for October of this year” – does this mean that current campaign will be replaced ? or it will remain along with the new one ?
PvE. omg no, please don’t.
As I have said many times,the game will be dead by the end of this year and no amount of hd maps will save it…. And i dont consider alive a 15 vs 15 premium bot shitfest where you get clicked by laser guided arty! US server is dead and I bet my ass EU closely follows. Wot will be the example of how a good game got fucked up by a crappy company
The only server that has even the slightest chance of dying before 2020 is the US server
Well looks like this conference was a huge success. The “developers” agreed to dont want to do anything usefull just wasting time again.
I so sorry this game.
I say leave Friendly Fire in.
It can be abused but at the same time can be “abused” by hugging enemies, good hearted opponents will think twice about shooting.
And what’s wrong with M44 exactly? 🙂
It has over a 50% win rate and is an arty so it must be nerfed! Of course russian mediums are allowed over 55% and no nerf!
Gold compensation ??? I have plenty of gold, I rather have just my cash back for the PMM tanks, or just leave them like they are now.
Ohhh YES! I was hoping they would finally rebalance preferencial T8 premiums and give them standard MM. Maybe good old Type 59 will be good again when it gets rebalanced for meeting T10 tanks. Fingers crossed
Matilda IV penetration buff?
Pref MM: Good to see they will offer compensation if the owner if not happy with the changes, but on the other hand I’m not sure I’d like it if my Super Pershing suddenly started seeing tier 10s. We need more information on possible buffs before we can fully remove Pref MM. Curious what they have planned for the lower tier prefs like the two Matildas, the Churchill 3 and Excelsior.
T67: You’re delaying it why? Fine, but it still needs rebalancing in some way.
M44: As annoying as the M44 is at times, there are other spgs that need addressing (LeFH)
Removing Team Damage: I can see this easily exploited. I’ve seen enough videos on Claus Kellerman’s channel to know this won’t go well.
RNG: Please reduce. I understand the need for RNG but 25% is too much.
PvE: Looking forward to more options besides the same modes, but just make sure it doesn’t hurt the game like it did to AW.
* – Use XVM for battles. red players against red players… purple against purple, something like that. Now in Ranked Battle there are so many red players with tier 10 tank, and that is just fine, but BOY DO THEY FACK UP THE GAME!
* – Lose the 3-5-7, we all hate it.
* – Hire Milkym4n to make those beautiful skins!
* – We need another server, would be great!! Played 3 games tonight and it was full of lagg!!! 90K people online and playing ranked Battles!!! 200ms LAGG!! (maybe 1 server for Polish players ;-))
Here at WG we don’t acknowledge real issues and we absolutely do not fix these b/c there are no issues (KV-2s snapping 1 shots into targets 400 m away, maps geared towards Russian meds, Russian meds with total fantasy soft stats and performance oh and radio operation by a loader on the OTHER SIDE OF THE TANK).
Counter points:
1. -KV-5 has been trash for 3 patches now
2. -LOL the great arty nerf happened ages and people still point to it as being a problem unlike PREMIUM AMMO
3. -b/c we’re utter trash at WG and can’t grow a sack, admit we erred and correct it by locking the tank/crews/taking back the credits and other goodies that people cheated to obtain AND/OR determining who should be banned.
4. -No, we won’t acknowledge the problem of premium ammo being ezmode. No we won’t make it harder to spam premium ammo we will make it easier b/c we’re utter power donkey muppets screeching EEEEEEEEEEEE JAJAJAJAJAJA REEEEEEEE SCREEEEEEE from 9 to 5 in the office.
Non-sensical Wacko Gaming points:
1. Preferential MM will continue to slowly be phased out, even with vehicles that already have it. The first planned vehicle will be KV-5. The nature of those changes aren’t worked out yet. Though there will likely be the option for gold compensation or the rebalanced vehicle.
2. The M44 is a known problem at Tier 6.
3. The T-22 medium is a closed off topic not available for further discussion.
4. With WoT 1.0, the option to buy consumables and premium ammo with gold will be removed and the prices of premium ammo will also be adjusted. The next few iterations of Sandbox will test some adjustments to the in-game ammunition economy or even testing entirely new ammunition systems.
I had to laugh out loud when I read 4th point 😀 I am sitting on the train on my way to work 😀
Premium ammo.. Well…I though I could get the type 5 and then do the missions with blocking damage and stuff… What i didn’t think about – gold ammo. No matter how I angle my tank, even meds just shoot where they want and they penetrate me.
Reduce alpha by 30% or 50% and leave the plus on pen.
This game is not fun anymore when armor doesn’t mean shit.
Okay these changes make no sense, so the general chat which was removed because everyone was toxic as fuck is being put back in because you have improved the graphics.
Please reread that part and think about what you wrote
Fase out pref MM tanks, even the one that have it? Lol good luck with that, it’s like nerfing premiums, not allowed, or they need to give us refund 🙂
new server for all thoose east euro idiots messing up the games , yes thoose east euro idiots that been kicked of the russian serves years ago and dumped onto eu servers just to fuck up our games . Just admit it WG you done it on purpose as the russian players where fed up with them
News flash EU are fed up with them aswell
the amount of salt here always leads me to believe that either half of you kids play League, or are utterly spoilt
So does this mean the Type 59 will be phased out? It is a Pref. MM tank you know?
Yes! Cheaper gold ammo!! More powa for the “pro” players.
I hope they’l reduce the gold ammo damage too. Have a broken penetration who cares as long as it wont deal as many damage as a normal round thus simply better version of ammo.
Type5: has less pen thqn the tier 6 kv-2… C’mon, at least raise it to 90mm, to be somewhat competitive. Parallel remove premium shell bonus damage and make it to an AP shell, with 150 pen.
Pref mm: The type 59 became a pain in the new mm. Usually full tier 8 against super op prem tanks, or tier 8-9, where the case even worse. Pref Mm need need to be removed, type has to be buffed seriously (agility and a minimal pen, dpm and accuracy, with a bit of added front armor)
M44: An arty who still oneshots tanks, usually sweden tier 6 meds. Those who have those already knows… Meanwhile a tier 10 bc arty does does the same damage in lights, less in meds and often 0 in heavies. This is crap too. If arties cant be balance, remove them with compensation.