KV-3
Changes for KV-3 (🌍Russian, Tier-7, Elite).
Turret 2 – KV-3
• Turret Front Armor: from 130 to 155
Gun 1 – 85 mm F-30 [Stock turret]:
• Max. shells: from 91 to 110
Gun 1 – 85 mm F-30 [Top turret]:
• Max. Shells: 79 to 95
TOP Gun 6 – 122 mm D-25T [Top turret only]:
• Spread per 100 m: from 0.44 to 0.42
• Aiming time: from 3.26 to 2.97
KV-4
Changes for KV-4 (🌏Russian, Tier-8, Elite).
Turret 2 – KV-4-5
• Turret Front Armor: from 180 to 220
Gun 3 – 122 mm D-25T [only Top Turret]:
• Main projectile: from AP to APCR
• Armor penetration of the stock shell: from 175 to 217
• The speed of the stock shell: from 780 to 975
• Special (gold) shell: from APCR to Heat
• Armor penetration of a Special (gold) shell: from 217 to 270
• Special (gold) shell flight speed: from 975 to 820
• Price of a Special (gold) shell: from 4800 to 5200
• Spread per 100 m: from 0.44 to 0.42
• Aiming time: from 3.26 to 2.88
• Reload time: from 11.6 to 11.51
• Rate of fire: from 5.17 to 5.22
• Average damage per minute: from 2017 to 2034
TOP Gun 4 – 107 mm ZiS-24 [Top Turret only]:
• Spread per 100 m: from 0.36 to 0.35
• Aiming time: from 2.78 to 2.21
• Reload time: from 9.88 to 8.63
• Rate of fire: from 6.08 to 6.95
• Average damage per minute: from 1944 to 2225
T32
Changes for T32 (🇺🇲USA, Tier-8, Elite).
TOP Gun 2 – 105 mm Gun T5E1 [stock turret]:
• Armor penetration of the stock shell: from 198 to 208
• Reload time: from 12.08 to 10.16
• Rate of fire: from 4.97 to 5.9
• Average damage per minute: from 1589 to 1889
TOP Gun 2 – 105 mm Gun T5E1 [Top turret]:
• Armor penetration of the stock shell: from 198 to 208
• Spread per 100 m: from 0.39 to 0.38
• Aiming time: from 2.21 to 2.01
• Reload time: from 10.16 to 8.34
• Rate of fire: from 5.9 to 7.19
• Average damage per minute: from 1889 to 2302
M103
Changes for M103 (🇺🇲USA, Tier-9, Stock).
Suspension 1 – T97E1
• Aiming Circle Spread from Vehicle move (max.): 0.22 (7.48) -> 0.2 (6.8)
• Aiming Circle Spread from Vehicle Traversing (max.): 0.22 (5.72) -> 0.2 (5.2)
Suspension 2 – T97E2
• Aiming Circle Spread from Vehicle move (max.): 0.2 (6.8) -> 0.18 (6.12)
• Aiming Circle Spread from Vehicle Traversing (max.): 0.2 (5.6) -> 0.18 (5.04)
Gun 1 – 105 mm Gun T5E1 [both turrets]:
• Armor penetration of the stock shell: from 198 to 208
TOP Gun 3 – 120 mm Gun M58 [Top turret only]:
• Reload time: from 10.74 to 9.59
• Rate of fire: from 5.59 to 6.26
• Average damage per minute: from 2235 to 2503
From WoT Express
M103 deserves much more buffs imho… T32 will become a beast.
Anyway, good changes.
«T32 will become a beast»
not really, its buff are still below the META
the Soviet HTs for example, that are also being “balanced”, of the 4 one has 212mm of pen while the others have at least 220mm (IS-2-II=221mm; IS-3=225mm; KV-4=227mm) and now not only does the KV-4 receive some armor buffs but on top of that its GRIND GUN (not the TOP GUN like for the T32, although YOU SHOULD NEVER need to use the T32 stock gun making the TOP GUN the GRIND GUN) gets buffed 217mm while having the highest alpha in the tier among the non-DERP guns
just for comparision
T32: 198mm » 208mm = +10mm
KV-4: 175mm » 217mm = +42mm
TRUE BALANCE would be the T32 getting buffed to 218mm of pen (still below the META) and the 122mm D-25T being buffed to 185mm at Tier 7 and 205mm for Tier 8 and above
they have done ot before with the multiple 105mm T5’s and 90mm T15’s at Tier 8 on the US TT, why not do the same for the Soviet 122mm D-25T and just “invent” some upgraded versions
Technically while the D-25Ts on Russian tanks are going to have more flat penetration than the T 32s gun it will still have worse angle penetration due its standard shell being changed to an APCR shell and thus having lower normalisation.
@KingTigerDestroyer you are right, however you won’t be stuck with it forever, the D-25T will still be a transitional gun until you get the top gun, unlike the T32 that will be stuck with 208mm of pen in a game where there are no longer frontal weakspots on most tanks, besides the IS-3 and KV-4 gameplay will once again be the brawler type, at such close distances it is much easier to hit the flat areas of the armor
if we talk specifically gameplay wise the T32 needs it more than the KV-4, ideally you want to hide the hull but with distance the 208mm of pen become even less effective
@KingTigerDestroyer: has anyone ever tested empirically if the game actually does take projectile normalisation into account? when it comes to mechanics that are a little more complex, I’d always assume that they either don’t work or that WG is lying about their existence (e.g. like they did with the MM system that would put you in high tier after too many low tier battles …)
The KV-4 doesnt even come close to having the highest alpha in the tier, even among the non-derp guns. There are multiple heavies with 440 alpha. There are even a couple of heavies with 490 alpha at Tier 8.
@Sturmio545, Yes, Normalisation is 100% a thing. Get a friend with an STRV S1 and you get in a tank with a 90mm gun that has HEAT as its premium ammo. Theoretically, you should bounce off the angled front/top of the STRV S1 every time with your AP until you switch over to HEAT, and then you’ll start penning pretty reliably due to HEAT having normalisation upto 80 degrees.
That T32 is going to be worth a revisit if Reloadtime and Penetration are going to be somewhere around these values.
My lovely T32 finally getting a buff 🙂
yeah ru monkey tanks naturally need a buff to remain [op] “competitive”